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    Mises Circle Houston January 30th with Ron Paul

    10:00 a.m. Jeff Deist, “Alt-Right vs. Socialist Left: What It Means for Liberty”
    10:25 a.m. Corie Whalen Stephens, “Liberty Will Always Be Popular”
    10:35 a.m. Corie Whalen Stephens, “Why the Fed’s Magic Trick Won’t Work”
    11:00 a.m. Q&A
    11:20 a.m. Break (last chance to purchase books to be autographed)
    11:40 a.m. Panel Discussion, “Where Are We Headed in 2016?”
    12:20 – 1:30 p.m. Lunch Break
    1:20 – 1:50 p.m. Photos with Ron Paul (on stage)
    1:50 p.m. Lew Rockwell, “3 Reasons for Hope”
    2:10 p.m. Ron Paul, “What’s Ahead”
    2:40 p.m. Q&A
    3:00 p.m. Adjourn



    Where Are We Headed in 2016? [Part 1 of 3]

    Audio is jacked until about the 11:00 minute mark



    Where Are We Headed in 2016? [Part 2 of 3]



    Where Are We Headed in 2016? [Part 3 of 3]

    Lew and Ron are in this one. If you just want to watch Ron, he starts at about the 30:00 mark.



    Ron was on fire! He got in a carpet bombing dig on Cruz and finished it off with one on Bernie.


    Also, the Mises Caucus (No Diebold machines used - Diest, he's so cute)

    1 - Rand Paul
    2- Principled Non Voter
    3- Trump
    4- Vermin Supreme
    5- Jesse Ventura
    6- Daryl Perry Diest didn't know either.
    Last edited by Suzanimal; 01-30-2016 at 08:04 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Where Are We Headed in 2016? [Part 1 of 3]

    Audio is jacked until about the 11:00 minute mark
    Can't hear muh Jeff Deist!

    Oh, well. The caption at YouTube says "Edited media of this event will be available on Mises.org next week" - so maybe they'll get this fixed ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Can't hear muh Jeff Deist!

    Oh, well. The caption at YouTube says "Edited media of this event will be available on Mises.org next week" - so maybe they'll get this fixed ...
    It started working for me after the 11:00 minute mark but I saw in the toob comments that someone else couldn't hear him at that point. Maybe I have super doggie hearing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Alt-Right vs. Socialist Left: What It Means For Liberty | Jeff Deist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxkV-A5dBZc

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    Why the Fed's Magic Trick Won't Work | Robert P. Murphy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNOVd8rWyG8

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    Modern Money Theory. I dunno what the hell that is but if Comrade Bernie is interested, I doubt I will like it. I guess I better read up on it but if anyone can explain it in plain English or direct me to a site or video that does a good job (maybe MMT for Dummies?), I would greatly appreciate it.

    Interesting talk. I especially liked the last bit from around the 26:00 mark on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Alt-Right vs. Socialist Left: What It Means For Liberty | Jeff Deist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxkV-A5dBZc
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Ron Paul: Socialism and War Will Not Prevail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1b1Gqm6OQY
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-06-2016 at 03:29 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Modern Mone[tary] Theory. I dunno what the hell that is but if Comrade Bernie is interested, I doubt I will like it. I guess I better read up on it but if anyone can explain it in plain English or direct me to a site or video that does a good job (maybe MMT for Dummies?), I would greatly appreciate it.
    Maybe some of this will help. (It's pretty heavy on Bob Murphy - but that can never be a bad thing ... )

    Here's the Wikipedia page for MMT: Modern Monetary Theory

    Here's a 2011 mises.org article about MMT (by Bob Murphy): The Upside-Down World of MMT

    Here's a collection of Bob's blog posts about MMT: http://consultingbyrpm.com/?s=MMT

    (BTW, Bob Murphy is also cited in the "Criticisms" section of the Wikipedia article on MMT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern...ory#Criticisms)
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    Here's a debate between Bob Murphy and one of the chief proponents of MMT, Warren Mosler (06 June 2013):

    MMT vs. Austrian School Debate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUTLCDBONok

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    Bob Murphy discussed MMT in episode #38 of The Tom Woods Show (13 November 2013): http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-38-murphy-takes-on-mmt/

    I couldn't find a 'tube for this episode, so here's an audio file (mp3): http://traffic.libsyn.com/tomwoodssh..._13_2013_2.mp3

    Here are some remarks by Bob about the show:

    Tom Woods Talks MMT With Me
    http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2013...t-with-me.html
    Bob Murphy (14 November 2013)

    [...] Two things:

    (1) I misspoke early in the interview, when I confused Abba Lerner with Oskar Lange. They both advanced the "market socialist" response to Mises during the celebrated Socialist Calculation Debate, but it was Lange (not Lerner) who wrote (somewhat tongue in cheek):

    Both as an expression of recognition for the great service rendered by him and as a memento of the prime importance of sound economic accounting, a statue of Professor Mises ought to occupy an honorable place in the great hall of the Ministry of Socialization or of the Central Planning Board of the socialist state.

    But just to be clear, I was right that Abba Lerner is the forerunner to today's MMT guys.

    (2) I summarize my view on MMT near the end of the interview like this:

    "[T]hey run around with these accounting tautologies that yes, technically are accurate mathematically, but how they deploy them in policy discussions is completely misleading."
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    And finally, just for laughs:

    You may remember the viral "Peter Schiff was right" YouTube video.

    Mike Norman was one of the guys who infamously mocked Schiff in that video. Mike Norman is an MMTer.

    Anyway, Norman tried to instigate a kerfuffle with Bob Murphy over the Murphy-Mosler debate (posted above). Big mistake ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETPhXVME5Gs
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-06-2016 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    And finally, just for laughs:

    You may remember the viral "Peter Schiff was right" YouTube video.

    Mike Norman was one of the guys who infamously mocked Schiff in that video. Mike Norman is an MMTer.

    Anyway, Norman tried to instigate a kerfuffle with Bob Murphy over the Murphy-Mosler debate (posted above). Big mistake ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETPhXVME5Gs
    I started with that video. I think the Mises crew should all do some fun wrestler videos. I wouldn't mind seeing Deist in a pair of those itty bitty wrestler underwear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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