The way the goons blow the hell out of everything I am absolutely AMAZED that anyone in the truck survived...Originally Posted by youngbuck
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Thanks for that info. That was new for me. Part of me understands how he/they were looking for de-escalation and how they wanted to keep it ranchers... all of me feels those involved were, at least, a little naive of how far politicians/Feds/cops were willing to go to make a statement.
This smelled fishy from the first reports I read of LaVoy's death. The more I learn, the more it looks like The Gauntlet Part 2...
Just came across this...
"Detailed Version"
SUPPLEMENTAL STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY
2-2-2016
"The purpose of this statement is to supplement the statement we issued earlier. It does not contradict our previous statement, but only serves to supplement, support and add detail to our previous position.
At this point, based on the additional information we have now received, it is our position that not only was the shooting death of LaVoy Finicum completely unjustified, but that the FBI and Oregon State Police may also be engaging in a cover-up, and seeking to manipulate and mislead the media and the American public about what really happened.
We realize this may sound like a bold statement, but now that Shawna Cox, who was a passenger in LaVoy’s vehicle, and an eye witness, has been released from custody, we have now had the opportunity to hear yet another account, and the ability to start cross-referencing all currently available information to figure out what really happened. This has shed important additional light on the whole ordeal --especially when Cox is given the opportunity to essentially narrate what is happening in the video, from an eye witness standpoint."...
The rest of the supplemental statement-
http://media.oregonlive.com/oregon-s...statement2.pdf
Article By Laura Gunderson | The Oregonian/OregonLive
'LaVoy Finicum's family calls death 'unjustified,' says FBI covering up real story'
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta..._death_un.html
What did she say was happening when he first put his hands down? Did she say he was shot?
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The shot BEFORE the snow bank
FBI Command Cntr entrance vs. 1 Rancher
They sure as hell didn't throw a snowball!
In living color...
(fyi... they were the 'fence' ranchers.. who authorized Ammon & Lavoy to 'cut' & gate..
then became intimidated to retract/lie...
just goes to show you can never lick boots hard enough..
to ever keep the masters happy. Once you stand... don't kneel.)
Last edited by goldenequity; 02-04-2016 at 02:49 PM.
Guilty until proven innocent = Lying in wait
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C&P from http://media.oregonlive.com/oregon-s...statement2.pdf
• According to Cox, because it was very obvious that LaVoy had his hands in the air and intended to keep them there, the best explanation for LaVoy’s arguably furtive hand movements, and why he lowered his hands and reached for his side at one point is because he had already been shot, and he was reaching toward the area where he had been hit as an involuntary physical reflex, despite his fairly obvious determination to try to keep his hands in the air, as evidenced by the fact that he once again attempted to raised his hands, before being shot again and collapsing.
http://www.pacificpatriotsnetwork.com/OFFICIAL STAND DOWN
In light of recent events that took place today and conversations with the FBI and people at the refuge, we have decided to stand down our PPN Call to Action.
The event Saturday is cancelled. For those that are on the road to assist, we will hold a memorial service for Lavoy Finicum at the site outside of Burns on hwy 395 at 1pm on Saturday.
hmm,
Opposition controlled successfully.
Last edited by pcosmar; 02-04-2016 at 11:54 PM.
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Could they be anymore vague? What took place today? What was discussed? Why the stand down after the ball just started to get rolling? What good is the PPN?
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to those already in transit to the scene, it was suggested they all have a memorial gathering at the spot of Lavoy's murder. I think i have that right.
Haven't seen this posted yet:
If you were sitting there,,
Would you believe the FBI,, or anyone at this point??
These people have Death or Prison to choose between. Hard choice.
edit,,
how much is that like the Presidential election?
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Couldn't trust the bastards but what other option do they have?? There's no way the goons are going to let them leave that place alive unless they are in chains. I suppose they could leave there in chains and then try to get a good lawyer to get them off with minor charges. Don't know what they would even be charged with at this point but I'm sure they have a list of "crimes" a mile long up to and including "terrorism"...If you were sitting there,,
Would you believe the FBI,, or anyone at this point??
These people have Death or Prison to choose between. Hard choice.
edit,,
how much is that like the Presidential election?
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Why don't they just call them, certainly they have access to their cellphones? Also, Ammon made no mention of any of this in his recent letter from jail. So does he really feel this way?
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This is from yesterday...
So the local court, asserts that only conspiracy theorist loony jobs believe the courts are corrupt and that the justice system does not work, by acting corrupt and not following the procedural rules that is the justice system? Yea.
...So Ammon is telling the OSP and FBI to give up and go away, not anybody else.
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BINGO!
Yes, he ONLY told the cops/FBI to leave LOL.
IMO, these charges are a joke... and denying defendants the right to appear in court to face those charging them!?!
I will try to remain an optimist while (foolishly?) looking forward to lots of truth and exposure coming out in these trials. Respect to Ammom for taking on this fight...
Impoverished Grant County Local Tells Truth ( at John Day... where Ammon/Lavoy were headed)
Last edited by goldenequity; 02-05-2016 at 12:58 PM.
It appears all the links have been scrubbed. Though I have no direct link to anything specific from FB chatter on III%'ers, PPN pages this was false.
Was a stolen 9mm handgun planted on LaVoy Finicum after his death by the FBI?
Posted on February 1, 2016
https://lozzafun1.wordpress.com/2016...th-by-the-fbi/
~@ An interesting development… Witness’s stated that Lavoy left his guns at the refuge, that they all did… Is it true?… Darned if I know but ‘if true’, this claim puts a big hole in the official story…
source
According to the Pacific Patriots Network, the serial number of the 9mm gun the FBI claimed was found on LaVoy Finicum came up STOLEN over 2 years ago.
That serial number is 54119868.
Barbara Davis on facebook said LaVoy was shot 9 times, and his body is back home now, but the funeral will be closed casket.
Barbara was the one that put out the call for the serial number according to the post on Facebook, which they are saying has now been removed.
From: Joanne
Date: February 1, 2016
Subject:Finican murderThis looks weird because i had to take a photo of it. Facebook wouldn’t let me forward the original which came from my reliable source. And, It has disappeared. They are majorly into a censorship mode.
Joanne
Lavoy Funeral about to stream...
Kanab Utah
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Update: hmmm...
apparently they 'lost power' (idk) ... MSN news trucks are all there...
apparently they can 'suck/drain' your cell phone batt if you get too close? idk
they say FBI has rented all the rooms in Kanab (?? idk)
but the locals were offering them shelter (last night) ...
funeral doesn't start til 2:30 MST... nuther 1.5 hrs...
they plan on having a horse (cowboy) parade through town (after service) ...
apparently (some) roads are blocked off for press.
there are militia there to "protect" ... local Sheriff is supportive...
Kane County/Sheriff Tracy Glover called the area motels and told them to contact him if any FBI check in (to watchdog them)
Somebody said Blaine Cooper made an appearance...
Revolution Radio they're having trouble streaming... nothing to post yet/on standby... sorry
https://www.youtube.com/user/weaponizedtalkradio/feed
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Shawna Cox was there.. in defiance of the Judge's court order
denying her permission to attend (unless something changed)
There was the graveside ceremony... a woman was speaking..
towards the end... she was starting to sob and cry... then
someone shouted out 'Murder!' @ 10:00
Cliven Bundy was there on horseback.
About 2,000 attended.
An indoor Gathering/Invitation was announced to start @ 5:30pm... about now.
A workshop will be held tomorrow morning to teach/educate Ranchers.
Last edited by goldenequity; 02-05-2016 at 06:44 PM.
thanks..
I don't see LaVoy as being someone who'd have a stolen pistol... The theory that it was planted on him seems much more likely.
long time law abiding Gun Owner with several legal guns... leaves all his legal guns and acquires a recently stolen gun for this ride.
Doesn't smell right to me either.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Lavoy's attorney.. there will be an independent autopsy & they have requested an independent investigation
Even though Lavoy's friends and family are grieving, we must acknowledge the grief that those poor law enforcement officers must be dealing with after having to shoot him.
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