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  1. #661
    Use of cover terms to mask the true meaning of events or illegal activities....
    "Molasses tomorrow will bring forth cognac." "John has a long mustache".

    Repeat...

    "Molasses tomorrow will bring forth cognac." "John has a long mustache".



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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post


    It has begun... the 'Night of the Long Knives'...
    We had our chance.
    Now they take us down one by one.

    We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately
    famous founders observation.

    further comment deleted.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  4. #663


    Apparently these guys have been filing complaints against each other since the last election, when it got particularly nasty:


    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...hard-Gray.html
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  5. #664
    Grant County Sheriff Accused Of Helping Refuge Occupiers

    PORTLAND, Ore. — Grant County's sheriff is under state investigation after complaints about his conduct during the standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    There were apparently concerns Sheriff Glenn Palmer might have been passing information to the occupiers during the standoff.

    He was apparently kept out of the loop about plans for the traffic stop that led to the arrest of Ammon Bundy and several others, and the shooting death of LaVoy Finicum.

    Now Palmer is facing more than half a dozen complaints - some from law enforcement agencies - about his actions during the standoff.

    Palmer is outspoken about gun rights and is sympathetic to anti-government protesters. The sheriff's office even posted a video clip featuring Palmer on its website.

    "People are tired of the oppression from their government," he says in the video. "And at some point it's got to stop or we're gonna have problems."

    But complaints, including one from the John Day 911 center and John Day's chief of police to Oregon's Department of Public Safety Standards and Training claim Palmer stepped over the line during the refuge standoff, helping keep the militia informed of law enforcement efforts to end the occupation.

    "We received a number of complaints from residents of Grant County alleging misconduct, or potential misconduct, by Sheriff Palmer," said Eriks Gabliks, spokesman for DPSST.

    The DPSST replied to the complaints by saying its preliminary investigation shows Palmer's actions "may violate the Board's certification standards." That means Palmer could be stripped of his state law enforcement credentials.

    "They appear to be very serious and require that we look into them, and we've asked the Oregon Department of Justice to conduct the investigation on our behalf," Gabliks said.

    It wouldn't be the first time the DPSST has taken action against a sheriff. In 2008, Multnomah County Sheriff Bernie Giusto resigned as the DPSST was wrapping up an investigation into alleged misconduct by Giusto.
    http://katu.com/news/local/grant-cou...fuge-occupiers



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  7. #665
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The DPSST replied to the complaints by saying its preliminary investigation shows Palmer's actions "may violate the Board's certification standards." That means Palmer could be stripped of his state law enforcement credentials.
    Ain't it strange how in other cases of alleged police misconduct, they'll often just flat out refuse to comment by citing concerns about an "ongoing invesitgation" or some such thing? I wonder why that is ... and why this case is different ... hmmmmmmm ....
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  8. #666
    FEDs are going crazy. How much will stand up in court?

    'Sheriff Richard Mack & Sibel Edmonds Discuss Oregon, Federal Tyranny & Political Persecution'



    Published on Feb 20, 2016

    In the latest development involving the Burns-OR Standoff case, the Oregon Department of Public Safety Standards and Training is asking the state Department of Justice to investigate Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer after receiving numerous complaints from the public and others, including dispatchers and the John Day police chief. The Department has released eight separate complaints, including ones from a 911 manager and the John Day police chief, alleging misconduct by Palmer, and raising alarm concerning Palmer's association with leaders of the refuge occupation.
    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2016...trol-proposal/

  9. #667
    Sheriff Mack is the man!

  10. #668
    just a reminder here...

    911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB...

    that is all....

  11. #669
    Quote Originally Posted by DavesNotHere View Post
    FEDs are going crazy. How much will stand up in court?

    'Sheriff Richard Mack & Sibel Edmonds Discuss Oregon, Federal Tyranny & Political Persecution'




    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2016...trol-proposal/
    Sheriff Mack will no doubt be "investigated" soon. We are all on that short list and if any of us make too much noise they will move to silence us. The time is soon coming when the only thing left will be for scores of individuals...
    BEWARE THE CULT OF "GOVERNMENT"

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  12. #670
    Wednesday, 9pm EST -

    LaVoy Finicum's wife speaks out for the first time since his death tomorrow night on UNFILTERED. 9pm ET, set your DVR now. Go to NewsmaxTV.com for channel listings or to view online in real time.

  13. #671
    INTERVIEW: Jeanette Finicum discusses the death of her husband Lavoy Finicum -

    http://www.newsmaxtv.com/vod/DML-Unf...TKng832pmYl0Sp.

    She said she is not allowed to release the results of the independent autopsy they had done on Lavoy, until the Feds release their autopsy report.
    Jeanette's lawyer was in Oregon to see Lavoy's truck and he was denied access and would not be able to have access unless they go further with legal matters.

  14. #672
    Here are some (several hundred) emails to and from the OR Gov's office during the standoff:

    http://docdro.id/H6CRDQu
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  16. #673
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Here are some (several hundred) emails to and from the OR Gov's office during the standoff:

    http://docdro.id/H6CRDQu
    Oh, $#@!. I think tomorrow is a ash as I read through this...

  17. #674
    Does anyone know how the family of Lavoy recovered the planted 9mm pistol? I feel like that evidence would have been confiscated fairly quickly by the FBI

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  19. #676
    Kansas woman who took her kids to Oregon refuge standoff arrested

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/04...?intcmp=hplnws

    TOPEKA, Kan. – A Kansas woman who took her children to perform for occupiers during the armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge earlier this year says authorities have removed seven of her children from her home and arrested her for assaulting an officer.

    Odalis Sharp, 46, of Auburn was booked into the Shawnee County jail Friday evening for battery of an officer and interfering with a law enforcement officer, jail officials told The Kansas City Star. No charges had been filed as of Tuesday morning. The Shawnee County prosecutor's office could not be reached for comment.

    Sharp was released Saturday on $3,000 bond.

    Sharp traveled with seven of her 10 children, who have a family gospel band, from Kansas to Oregon to sing for and support the 41-day occupation by armed militants of at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. One daughter, 18-year-old Victoria Sharp, was riding with Nevada rancher LaVoy Finicum and three of the other militants when Finicum ran a roadblock and was shot and killed by Oregon state police.

    Sharp said the arrest occurred after she went to court earlier Friday trying to file paperwork accusing her landlord of breach of contract. Her landlord had earlier sought to have her removed from the home. She said when she returned home, law enforcement and employees with the Kansas Department of Children and Families were waiting.

    "They wanted me to go with them," Sharp told the newspaper. "They wouldn't let me go to the house. One grabbed my arm and legs and dragged me out of the car. I kicked the woman officer."

    Sharp said the sheriff's officers arrested her and took one of her children who was with her at the time. Six of her other children had been taken by child welfare workers while she was away, Sharp said. Three older children live elsewhere.

    A DCF spokeswoman didn't immediately return a call seeking comment Tuesday.

    "They're all in DCF custody now, as far as I know," she said. "They're evil. They steal kids. This is the devil against my family."

    She said DCF workers visited her at least twice since returning from Oregon and that someone had apparently called the child abuse and neglect hotline recently.

    "They're making false charges," she said.

    In 2011, the Kansas Department for Children and Families removed Sharp's oldest child who was then 15 and placed him in foster care. Sharp appealed, but the appellate court sided with the lower courts in October.

  20. #677
    Observe. ^^
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  21. #678
    Federal Jury Convicts 2 of Conspiracy in Oregon Standoff Trial

    A jury on Friday found two men guilty of conspiracy and acquitted two others in a trial over the 2016 armed standoff at an Oregon wildlife refuge.
    All four men were part of a group of anti-government protesters who seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters in January 2016 in a high-profile protest over federal ownership of public lands.

    The jury found Jason Patrick and Darryl Thorn guilty of conspiring to prevent federal workers from doing their jobs at the refuge, the Oregonian reported. They face up to six years in prison, according to the Associated Press.

    The jury found Duane Ehmer and Jake Ryan not guilty of conspiracy, but convicted them of lesser charges.In October, seven defendants — including Ammon and Ryan Bundy, who led the wildlife refuge takeover — were acquitted of federal conspiracy and weapons charges related to the occupation.
    http://time.com/4698834/oregon-stand...alflow_twitter
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  22. #679
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Federal Jury Convicts 2 of Conspiracy in Oregon Standoff Trial



    http://time.com/4698834/oregon-stand...alflow_twitter
    And still no obstruction of justice charges for the FBI HRT agents that hid their shell casings and lied to the sheriff? That "investigation" is taking longer than the Bundy's investigation and their trial combined.

  23. #680
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And still no obstruction of justice charges for the FBI HRT agents that hid their shell casings and lied to the sheriff? That "investigation" is taking longer than the Bundy's investigation and their trial combined.
    "Just-us"...
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