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    Rand is about to shock everyone!

    It seems like just yesterday that many news networks were cheerfully mourning the end of Rand Paul‘s 2016 presidential campaign. However, it may be the case for Paul that the Iowa Caucuses serve not as a beginning of the end, but rather the end of the beginning.
    The election thus far has seen numerous twists and turns, not the least of which have occurred in Iowa. In July and August, Scott Walker was at the top of the pack in the Hawkeye State, only to crater in the polls and withdraw from the race altogether in September.
    Since that point, Iowa polls have been mostly dominated by Donald Trump, who has faced challenges of varying degrees from Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio.
    However, more than any campaign in history, 2016 has drawn attention to flaws in polling techniques. This is amplified in caucus states in Iowa, where numerous factors other than mere preferences come into play.
    As well-known pollster and statistician Nate Silver has pointed out, some polls are very “loose” in screening who they poll. Silver points out that this leads to polls like one conducted by CNN which predicts a voter turnout in the Iowa Republican caucuses of about 320,000 — more than double the 121,000 turnout in 2012.
    In addition, polls use past trends to predict future turnout for demographics. In Iowa, this has led to pollsters surveying under-thirty voters in a manner resulting in that group representing only about 5% of sample sizes.
    Extremely noteworthy is that the Iowa Caucuses — unlike in 2012 — will take place while college is in session, by default leading to an increase in youth voters. This is particularly important when noting that Rand Paul has created, in “Students for Rand,” arguably the greatest youth outreach operation in American electoral history. The group has pledged to mobilize at least 10,000 students to caucus for Paul in Iowa and has made nearly one million calls into the state. As a whole, Paul’s ground game in Iowa has been consistently ranked among the best. His campaign has over 1,000 precinct captains, nearly doubling his father’s 2012 total.
    Conversely, Donald Trump’s ground game is nonexistent: unprecedented for Iowa, but perhaps not surprising for a political novice. Another political newcomer, Ben Carson, has put together a much better infrastructure, but has seen his campaign slowly implode over the last several months.
    Meanwhile, even using measuring techniques that are likely flawed, Rand Paul has picked up serious steam, rising to fifth place in Iowa in multiple polls, likely propelling him into FOX News’s main stage debate on Thursday. After being pushed off the stage for the last debate, Paul calmly used the slight to his advantage, mobilizing his supporters and drawing comparisons to his father’s “blackout” in 2012.
    With one week to go in 2012, Rick Santorum was in sixth place out of seven candidates in the RealClearPolitics average in Iowa, just ahead of Jon Huntsman, who had elected to forego the caucuses. Santorum would go on to rise by seventeen points by the time voting concluded, pulling off one of the most improbable feats in political history.
    Why can’t Paul do the same this time? According to polls, anywhere between 30% and 50% of Iowans have yet to make a firm choice as to their selections for February 1. When they arrive to caucus, they are likely to hear and see dozens of younger people expressing their excitement for a new kind of Republican.
    Many have enjoyed laughing at Rand Paul’s misfortunes up to this point. However, he and his campaign have quietly worked in the background, building a campaign both in Iowa and nationally that can succeed over the long haul. If there is any truth to what seems to be occurring in this tumultuous presidential race, Rand Paul has a serious opportunity to reshape the Republican field next Monday in Iowa.


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    Nice read

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdelcour View Post
    It's happening!
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    When you make that animation that big, it makes Ron look like he has syndactyly.

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    I don't really but the polls are wrong story, but there is definitely time for one or two more candidates to surge before this thing is over. Could it be rand? I don't know but I sure hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    I don't really but the polls are wrong
    Rand and Ron both say the polls are wrong - people here have scientifically and mathematically proven the polls are wrong.

    Why do you pray to the poll Gods? Are you a stripper?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    The shock felt around the world!

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    I'm hoping for 20k votes or so. Should bring him close to 18%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    people here have scientifically and mathematically proven the polls are wrong.

    Oh yea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    Oh yea?
    I'm still skeptical

    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    Just 570 votes so far in Story county where we had 2000+ student pledges... (4 precincts to go) WTF happened? Did they stay home? Did they decide to vote for Rubio instead, who is dominating there with 32%+?

    Jefferson county which went 50% for Ron Paul is at 8% for Rand. (1 precinct missing)
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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