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    Sowell vs Trump

    In this article http://m.townhall.com/columnists/tho...facts-n2108178
    Thomas Sowell says,
    "Yet there are even a few people with strong conservative principles who have lined up with this man, whose history has demonstrated no principles at all, other than an ability to make self-serving deals, and who has shown what Thorstein Veblen once called "a versatility of convictions.""

    the part that caught my attention was his use of "self-serving deals" in a negative light. Isn't that a contradiction of past Sowell writings and teachings? I'm not a trump supporter but self serving deals are promoted by, dare I say, most all free market economists. Can anyone explain or defend this potential contradiction?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyJeff View Post
    In this article http://m.townhall.com/columnists/tho...facts-n2108178
    Thomas Sowell says,
    "Yet there are even a few people with strong conservative principles who have lined up with this man, whose history has demonstrated no principles at all, other than an ability to make self-serving deals, and who has shown what Thorstein Veblen once called "a versatility of convictions.""

    the part that caught my attention was his use of "self-serving deals" in a negative light. Isn't that a contradiction of past Sowell writings and teachings? I'm not a trump supporter but self serving deals are promoted by, dare I say, most all free market economists. Can anyone explain or defend this potential contradiction?
    Self-serving, when put in the context of Donald Trump, indicates something that is unnecessarily destructive and also contrary to those free market principles. Trump is not a free market guy, he'll use the government to ruin anybody if he feels like it. Keep that in mind when ever you hear someone call Trump self-serving, because it's probably not meant in the same light as some unwashed socialist complaining about his neighbor having a nicer house than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hells_unicorn View Post
    Self-serving, when put in the context of Donald Trump, indicates something that is unnecessarily destructive and also contrary to those free market principles. Trump is not a free market guy, he'll use the government to ruin anybody if he feels like it. Keep that in mind when ever you hear someone call Trump self-serving, because it's probably not meant in the same light as some unwashed socialist complaining about his neighbor having a nicer house than him.
    It's even simpler than that. The main reason why Trump wants to be president is because he thinks he knows better than everyone else and has no faith in the ability of the people to make their own decisions. That's why he uses the most blatant pandering to woo low-information voters. It's also a massive ego trip for him.

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    Sowell endorsed Newt Gingrich last go around and that excerpt from him about Trump could be used to describe Gingrich.

    Brilliant man, Sowell is, but an absolute pussy. His colleagues and counterparts have no qualms endorsing Ron or Rand, but he just can't quite get there.

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    Both great points. I wish T.Sowell would have phased it the way you two mentioned. A term like "coercion" or "corruption" would have be better used in this article than a term like self seriving. Too many people (non free market thinkers) use the term self seriving,negatively, to mean 'evil greedy capitalists" and this usage by Sowell can be easily confused by that population IMHO.

    while I understand the first two replies, id ask you both: are you really reading this paragraph differently than me or are you justifying the usage because you know it was written by such a well respected man? You may answer either but i wonder if the phrase would be supported if someone else used it. Of course one could argue that Sowell's past writing is used as a 'context clue' in this case too.
    Last edited by TommyJeff; 01-25-2016 at 01:34 PM.

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    Stef burns through the whole thing here - Interesting sophistry exposť'.



    (BTW, I do think DT did mimic that reporter, but I couldn't care less.)

    Trump might make a great, popular POTUS (if we can't have Paul).

    In times of economic and civic stress, popular might sound pretty
    darn good... 'till you're yanked out of bed and forced into a boxcar.



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