I'm looking for non-GMO and/or organic long-term food supply with long (15+ yrs) a shelf life. Do you know of any?
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Check with the freeze dried food people. That stuff is supposed to be good for 20 some years.
Buy non GMO seeds. Grow vegetables. Harvest. Can them. People have gotten way more than 15 years out of such things.
There are many beans and grains you can keep that long. I use 5 gallon cornelius "soda" kegs. I like to keep no less than a keg each of lentils, kidney beans, popcorn, sugar, and rice on hand. I store the kegs in my basement where it stays around 55 all year. You'd be amazed how "buffered" just those 5 kegs can make you feel.
Check here for shelf life:
http://offgridsurvival.com/survivalfood/
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raw honey never goes bad.. honey that theyve found in egyptian tombs thousands of years old is still good to eat. its a complete food high in calories.. it will keep you alive and it tastes greatOriginally Posted by groverblue
vinegar never goes bad either... there are a couple others but i dont recall them right now
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yes this is a time that i would agree with you... food with preservatives is better than starving.
Most grains last a long time until you grind them.
Wheat, for example can last 30+ years, if kept dry. Once wheat is ground, it is only good for about 24 hours.
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thats good to know.. i keep barley and einkhorn grain in my fridge and grind it up before im going to use it.. had no idea they lasted that long... guess theyre seeds so it makes sense.
Definitely keep that grain sealed up though. Even then it can be tough. Tiny little bugs like to infest the stuff. Weevils and others. I've seen them in store bought food and in huge grain bins. Farmers usually "dope" their bins with poison (not optimal for foodstuffs).
As long as you can keep the oxygen away from it, those bugs don't be able to live. Oxygen absorbents are good for that.
Correct. Dry ice works well too.
Here is a website with storage info:
http://extension.usu.edu/foodstorage/htm/wheat
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That reminds me of an old scifi story I read many moons ago, about a future where they found that the preservatives that had been ingested ended up preserving the people. I don't remember the details, but I believe they extended their life spans by a hundred years or more.
Not trying to promote preservatives here, but thought the angle was interesting.
So I grew up on a dairy farm and knew all kinds of farm kids. I've never heard of poisoning a grain bin. Not saying its never happened but to stop weevils you empty out and sell grain prior to the next harvest and you keep air moving in the grain. The only place I've ever found weevils is in the beanbags made for corn hole. I've never seen bugs get into any grain other than corn.
Monsanto Buys Up Heirloom Seed Suppliers...
Continued - http://www.permaculture.co.uk/articl...seed-suppliers
The NM Tree and Garden Center located in Rio Rancho, New Mexico has discovered that Monsanto is buying heirloom seed companies. They are also buying the trademarks to a number of heirloom seeds. This means that you may think you are supporting an heirloom seed company but in reality the company is owned by Monsanto. The seeds themselves are still non-GMO and heirloom and they can be saved at the end of the harvest and resown next season, but you are still giving money to Monsanto.
Monsanto are also buying trademarks so that no matter where you buy certain seeds, they get money from it. Here is a LINK to the trademarks and seed companies Monsanto supply and ones that they do not supply in the USA.
Why are small organic/heirloom marques being acquired by the big global corporates? Firstly, there is a commercial market for them. Secondly, what you own you can control. Thirdly, if you are a vast industrial magnate and own one of these companies you can marginalise its market if you wish.
I think they're just doing it in order to get into the non-gmo market. Investors are running from gmo. Farmers, too. It's really the only way to protect themselves.
things have changed since then. at the "factory farm" level, feed is routinely fumigated.
http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef145.asp
CAUTION! Pesticide recommendations in this publication are registered for use in Kentucky, USA ONLY!
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We haven't stored seed in a long time but we used to spray some stuff on it as we were unloading it into the bins and there were times when my dad would crawl into the top of the bin and put some pellets into it. This was for seed for the next year.
I've definitely seen weevils and other bugs in weat/oats seed. Last year some wheat we got from a farmer had some.
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