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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
To the original question..
I mil? not sure how it matters. The US experiment has failed. (limited government,,personal liberty) the founding principles were rejected long ago .
People choose Authoritarianism over liberty.
and they choose all manner of idiots to wield that power.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
I realize it's a bit off-topic, but "child labor laws" currently penalize teens who have the time, motivation, and discipline to work. It's been some time since I was a teen, but my hours were closely watched, I wasn't allowed to have more than a certain number of hours, and my ability to save for things I wanted to purchase was cut down. The unfortunate part is that some of my co-workers NEEDED that money. They were working so they could save and move away from some really messed up situations. "For their own good" they turned to not-so-legal means of making money in order to do so.
As for the answer, several people have pointed out that the question is not very well phrased. Immigration in general is a good idea for a nation, but freebies and an unchecked, unmonitored flow of people are going to cause major problems. All of this is pretty fixable, but the Government benefits from NOT fixing it, and the people generally couple "immigration" with "illegal immigration" or "low-income immigrants." So even if the solutions are pretty obvious, would benefit the nation, and would be relatively simple to implement, no one's going to budge and start fixing things.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
Ok, I gotcha! But my question is....... Who is the "we" you are referring to? I think people have answered it from the perspective of "we" the people. Are you looking for the perspective of "we" TPTB?
Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
~ George Washington
It also assumes that immigrants (people) are threats.
and your neighbors too,,, when you need police to protect you from your fellow man..
seems awfully fear based to me.. one might even say bordering on paranoia.
and since this is the Religion forum,, the Spirit of Fear does not come from God.
Last edited by pcosmar; 01-17-2016 at 09:54 PM.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
~ George Washington
God did not support that government, (it was a type of one to come) and has not since.
Not the US Government nor any other. They will all be crushed when Christ returns.
Government authority does not come from God but from the prince of this world. It is error to believe otherwise.
The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. If you worship me, it will all be yours.”
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
we need mass immigration to fill all these jobs we have available
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
- Edward R. Murrow
...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.
How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
~ George Washington
Why do you make a false dichotomy between "a nation's sovereignty" and one-world-government?
What is "a nation's sovereignty"?
Where is such a thing mentioned approvingly in the Bible? Everything I can find in the Bible about some people ruling over others says it's sinful.
Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
~ George Washington
Half the present US population is still way too many.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with whether goods and people are allowed to cross borders freely.
A state is sovereign if and only if it is able to enforce whatever laws it likes within its territory.
It has nothing to do with which laws it chooses to enforce.
A state which could close the borders, but chooses not to, is no less sovereign than one which does in fact close the borders.
NO.. he does not.
The nations will be judged.. and then eliminated.
This world is ruled by Satan.. and will be till Christ returns.
This is common confusion,,
All earthly authority is satan's to give..The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. If you worship me, it will all be yours.”
If you have any authority in this world,, you got it from him.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
"Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45
"May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
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