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    Swiss General to Citizens: Arm Yourselves, Europe’s On the Verge of Civil War

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    “Society in western Europe is on the verge of breaking down amid chaotic violence caused by economic dislocation, mass immigration and terrorism. This is not the view of some ‘crazy survivalist’ but of the head of the Swiss Armed Forces.” So I guess speisa.com didn’t consider the possibility that the head of the Swiss Armed Forces is a crazy survivalist. Anyway, “Lieutenant-General André Blattmann has issued a warning to the Swiss people that society is dangerously close to collapse and advised those not already armed as part of the Swiss Army reserve to take steps to arm themselves.” Here’s what’s triggering General Blattmann’s call to arms . . .


    “The threat of terror is rising, hybrid wars are being fought around the globe; the economic outlook is gloomy and the resulting migration flows of displaced persons and refugees have assumed unforeseen dimensions.”

    Blattmann: “Social unrest can not be ruled out”, the vocabulary in public discourse will “dangerously aggressive.”

    “The mixture is increasingly unappetizing” Blattmann sees the basis of Swiss prosperity and society, “has long been once again called into question.”

    He recalls the situation around the two world wars in the last century and advises Switzerland, to arm themselves.

    That’s a translation from the newspaper Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten, so it seems a bit rough. But you vill notice there’s no “I” word in any of that. As in Islamic fundamentalism. But the subtext is clear enough. But not clear enough for speisa.com, which concluded their article like this:

    The Lieutenant-General’s warning echoes that of Rear Admiral Chris Parry in 2006, when he said that the combination of immigration and Islam would cause “a civilisational collapse on a par with the fall of the Roman Empire”.

    At the time, Parry was quizzed by hostile journalists but stuck to his guns, as did the then head of the British Armed Forces, who defended him on the basis that he hadn’t said that it definitely would happen, but was only warning what would happen unless the politicians addressed the problems. Needless to say, they failed to do so, in fact, they actually speeded the whole process up.
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    Actually he was arguing against budget cuts- not for arming citizens. http://www.thelocal.ch/20151228/swis...-terror-threat

    The head of the Swiss Armed Forces, André Blattmann, has warned against cutbacks in the military amid a heightened threat of terrorism around the world.

    In a commentary in the “Schweiz am Sonntag” newspaper, the Lieutenant General said the world needed security – in areas including the economy, education, sport, research and even culture.

    Speaking on the record for the first time since the November Paris terror attacks, Blattmann told the paper that despite a rise in security incidents over the past two years Switzerland’s means of defence were being reduced.

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    The Swiss are heeding his advice. Good for them.

    http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/-false--...ntons/41869086

    Applications for gun permits in Switzerland increased by 20% between 2014 and 2015, according to a survey conducted by Swiss public television, SRF.
    The survey, published on Wednesday, showed that in the 12 out of 26 cantons surveyed, the Swiss are increasingly interested in purchasing pistols, rifles and other firearms for private use.
    The greatest increase – more than 70% – was measured in canton Vaud, with more than 4,200 applications in 2015, compared with 2,427 in 2014.
    There is a general climate of uncertainty and an increased fear of intruders, said Pierre-Olivier Gaudard, head of crime prevention for canton Vaud.
    Canton Vaud is the closest part of Switzerland to France and speak mainly French.
    Last edited by seapilot; 01-03-2016 at 10:52 PM.
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    The source is questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually he was arguing against budget cuts- not for arming citizens. http://www.thelocal.ch/20151228/swis...-terror-threat
    Z3.0, why don't you explain to us what the difference is between cutting the budget of the Swiss military and disarming the Swiss people? Do tell us how the Swiss military far more strongly resembles the American regular army than it does the American national guard. We're all just dying to see how you spin that. Or, at least those of us who have a clue what the Swiss military really is are dying to see you tie yourself in verbal knots.
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    "Actually," the general called for both. So the statist prog is lying as usual.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually he was arguing against budget cuts- not for arming citizens. http://www.thelocal.ch/20151228/swis...-terror-threat
    Swiss Army Budget cuts:

    This:



    Becomes this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    "Actually," the general called for both. So the statist prog is lying as usual.
    Lying and trying to use the readers' ignorance to misrepresent. Both at the same time.

    Switzerland has no massive, overtrained standing army full of career people and conditioned to serve the agenda of the powerful without question. Such an institution does not exist in famously and traditionally neutral Switzerland, and never has.

    The Swiss were to no small degree the model for the infant U.S.A. They believe in an armed citizenry because that is their militia, and their citizen militia is the entirety of their defense. Well, that, an air national guard, and a landscape where a kid with a firecracker can bury a whole army of invaders, if they're kind enough to walk under his avalanche...
    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-04-2016 at 10:30 AM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually he was arguing against budget cuts- not for arming citizens. http://www.thelocal.ch/20151228/swis...-terror-threat
    yes he was advocating arming the citizens. They are the militia.
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    Switzerland's military budget is twice as big as Portugal's: http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...countries-list
    and about the same as other countries like Poland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is about two thirds of Germany's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    "Actually," the general called for both. So the statist prog is lying as usual.
    Where did he call for private citizens arming themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocaCola View Post
    Where did he call for private citizens arming themselves?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland
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    At any rate... europe is gonna continue sliding to destruction. Its always the crazy ones that come into power. Either a 4th reich or an european islamic caliphate. Its gonna make ww2 look puny when you have war between different cultures.

    I predict entire cities will be searched for muslims to be deported or killed by a nationalistic or fascist belligerent. It will be a bloody war of house to house combat, suicide bombing, ied, booby traps. There will be mass killing and rape.

    Basically its going to be a giant bosnia war where there is no winners. When will it happen? In our lifetime, thats for sure.

    Is it me or does europe have some kinda war going on in its borders every 15 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Switzerland's military budget is twice as big as Portugal's: http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...countries-list
    and about the same as other countries like Poland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is about two thirds of Germany's.
    Mainly because most of Europe has disarmed - the German Army is now down to 3 divisions from 14 in 1992.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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    That doesn't answer the question. Switzerland does have a professional military, despite all males in theory being part of the national militia.

    Where did the General call for private citizens to arm themselves?



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    Its always the crazy ones that come into power. Either a 4th reich or an european islamic caliphate.
    Hitler wasn't crazy. You've been lied too.

    Now he took things a little too far in some regards, that I would agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    Hitler wasn't crazy.
    All nationalists are mentally ill. So are all socialists. Hitler was both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocaCola View Post
    All nationalists are mentally ill. So are all socialists. Hitler was both.
    Agree about socialists, disagree about nationalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    At any rate... europe is gonna continue sliding to destruction. Its always the crazy ones that come into power. Either a 4th reich or an european islamic caliphate. Its gonna make ww2 look puny when you have war between different cultures.

    I predict entire cities will be searched for muslims to be deported or killed by a nationalistic or fascist belligerent. It will be a bloody war of house to house combat, suicide bombing, ied, booby traps. There will be mass killing and rape.

    Basically its going to be a giant bosnia war where there is no winners. When will it happen? In our lifetime, thats for sure.
    Unfortunately you're probably right.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    Agree about socialists, disagree about nationalists.
    So you agree that Hitler was mentally ill then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocaCola View Post
    So you agree that Hitler was mentally ill then?
    No I don't agree even a little bit.

    Doesn't mean I support the policies of National Socialism.

    At the same, I understand what brought about the rise of the Nazis: Bolshevism.

    Hitler didn't come from nowhere, and the threat of communism to Germany warranted a response.

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    Zippy will disappear from this thread as he has nothing of substance to add....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    Mainly because most of Europe has disarmed - the German Army is now down to 3 divisions from 14 in 1992.
    Only 3 divisions? I would have thought more considering their position regarding the EU. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CocaCola View Post
    Where did he call for private citizens arming themselves?
    In Switzerland, to a newspaper reporter. Are you click the link and google challenged or something?

    Odd that you and ZippyJeffry are taking exception to this. I wonder why that is... Did you kids have the same reaction when sheriffs in the US have said the same?

    Something tells me we have a few hoplophobes in our midst.



    Big day for you and your ilk! I bet you're all excited about Obama's "common sense and reasonable" gun control EOs to "help reduce gun violence."



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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    No I don't agree even a little bit.
    But you just agreed that all socialists are mentally ill. Hitler was a socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    In Switzerland, to a newspaper reporter. Are you click the link and google challenged or something?
    Please show me where he said that. He never said that Swiss citizens should go out and buy firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocaCola View Post
    But you just agreed that all socialists are mentally ill. Hitler was a socialist.
    ... or blame some deterioration on a STD combined with a fatal military power overdose?



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