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    Cycle shop owner: Police 'shot the wrong guy'

    NEENAH - Steve Erato, owner of Eagle Nation Cycles, said he thinks police “shot the wrong guy” in a tense hostage situation Saturday at his motorcycle shop in downtown Neenah.

    Erato and his attorney, Cole White of Green Bay, identified the victim as Michael L. Funk, 60, of Neenah.

    “He was a hostage coming out (of the building),” Erato told Post-Crescent Media on Sunday. “They shot him in the alley. They shot the wrong guy.”

    Neenah Police Chief Kevin Wilkinson said in an email Sunday evening that the Wisconsin Department of Justice Division of Criminal Investigation is leading the investigation into the shooting.

    "We aren't even interviewing our most involved people until after DCI finishes with them," Wilkinson said. "Thus, we have limited details about all that transpired. DCI knows far more about what happened there than I do."

    Funk, also known as ML, was a regular at Eagle Nation Cycles, 206 Main St. Erato said Funk was at the shop Saturday morning when a gunman armed with a MAC-10 entered the business and demanded back his motorcycle, which had been sold to another man and was at the shop for work.

    Erato was in the basement of the building when the gunman entered. He came upstairs when he heard a commotion. Funk saw him and secretly motioned for him to go back downstairs. Shortly before 9 a.m., Erato heard a gunshot from upstairs and called police to report “an active shooter in the building.”

    Erato told police that the gunman was holding Funk and one or two others as hostages in the shop and that he (Erato) was holed up in the basement. Erato kept in contact with a police dispatcher during much of the ordeal.

    Neenah police said in a statement that they received information about 9:20 a.m. that the hostages “were in immediate danger of being killed.”

    Police tried to enter the building to rescue the hostages but were met with gunfire and retreated, the statement said. One officer was shot by someone inside the building. He was hit in his helmet and required medical attention but was not seriously injured.

    A short time later, police said a man armed with a gun left the building. They have not identified that man.

    “This subject did not comply with officers’ instructions to drop the firearm and was subsequently shot at by one or more officers on scene,” the police statement said. “We do not know if he was also shot at by the subject inside the business.”

    White, an attorney who represents Erato and Funk in an ongoing $50 million federal lawsuit against Neenah, Neenah police and Winnebago County, said he understood “that ML was killed by law enforcement."

    "I'm devastated at his loss,” White said. “He was a great guy."

    Police negotiated with the gunman who reportedly fired the initial shot for several hours before surrendered to police about 1 p.m. Police have not identified the man.

    Winnebago County District Attorney Christian Gossett said Sunday that any charges against the man probably wouldn't be filed until midweek at the earliest. Police are keeping his office informed about the investigation but have not yet recommended charges, Gossett said.

    On Sunday, Department of Justice spokeswoman Anne E. Schwartz declined to release additional information about the investigation.

    "DOJ's investigation continues," she said in an email to Post-Crescent Media. "In order to preserve the integrity of that investigation we have nothing to add to what the police department shared earlier."

    Erato said Funk had a concealed-carry permit for a gun, but Erato doesn’t understand why Funk wouldn’t comply with police commands, as stated by police.

    “I can’t imagine that he had a gun on him and wouldn’t use it on the shooter and would run out and threaten the cops,” Erato said. “It just doesn’t make any sense.”

    White said he also is left with questions.

    “We believe at some point there must have been a scuffle between ML and the gunman and ML leaves the building trying to get help,” White said. “We don’t know what happened in terms of the law enforcement interaction, but he winds up dead.”

    White said Eagle Nation Cycles has surveillance cameras on the property that might show what happened. He said the Department of Justice has seized the footage for its investigation.


    The gunman who was arrested had made previous threats against the man who bought his motorcycle, White said. Those threats were reported to authorities, including the gunman’s probation officer, he said.

    “Had somebody been able to act on that information sooner, none of this would have happened yesterday,” White said.
    http://www.postcrescent.com/story/ne...fied/76880850/
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    Neenah police said in a statement that they received information about 9:20 a.m. that the hostages “were in immediate danger of being killed.”
    Looks like they were right.
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    White said Eagle Nation Cycles has surveillance cameras on the property that might show what happened. He said the Department of Justice has seized the footage for its investigation.

    Bye Bye video. Somehow it malfunctioned in order to avoid showing a guy shot before having a chance to comply.


    Jesus even in quiet GB, WI cops are ready to fill people full of lead and ask questions later. I was just there two weeks ago.

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    I call bull sh*t when you purchase security camera's and then the footage gets confiscated.

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    Probably made the hostage takers day, knowing that the police killed one of his victims.

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    More to the story. Apparently, the guys shot was a plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit against the city stemming from a raid in 2012.

    ...

    In 2012, the Lake Winnebago Area Metropolitan Enforcement Group staged a SWAT raid at Eagle Nation Cycles that resulted in 15 felony charges against Erato – all of which were dismissed. He was eventually convicted of misdemeanor marijuana possession.

    “They threw everything but the kitchen sink at him, and it turned out to be nothing,” observed White, who is still representing Erato in the federal lawsuit.

    During the raid, “The hyper-militarized force parked an armored tank-like vehicle outside of Eagle Nation, stormed the building, bombarding the occupants with assault weapons drawn, screaming profanities and abuse, all while wearing plainclothes (ununiformed) and face masks,” recounted the lawsuit. The raid was supposedly justified because an informant with the task force supposedly witnessed a drug deal in the alley behind the motorcycle shop on the previous day.

    The objective of the raid was to close down the business and seize the property on which it stood through “asset forfeiture,” the suit contends. Just days ago, the City of Neenah had filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit.

    ...

    Mayor Kaufert has not indicated whether he will be attending Funk’s funeral, but given that the deceased was a plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit against the city it’s likely that Kaufert and Wilkinson will somehow contain their bereavement.
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop...Y0Jv5F9cCoG.99
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    And the only one that will be charged with murder will be the suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    More to the story. Apparently, the guys shot was a plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit against the city stemming from a raid in 2012.


    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop...Y0Jv5F9cCoG.99

    hey! Killed two birds with one stone!

    Stopped a hostage situation by killing the hostage and get rid of a man suing the police dept in the same shot.

    Police is getting more efficient.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    More to the story. Apparently, the guys shot was a plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit against the city stemming from a raid in 2012.


    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop...Y0Jv5F9cCoG.99
    Interesting indeed...

    Suspicious? Black Man Killed Just Before He Receives Police Brutality Settlement

    Ex-Rikers Island inmate Robert Hinton was mysteriously murdered just one day before he was to receive a $450,000 police brutality settlement.

    Hinton, 28, was fatally shot in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn inside a public housing building, reports the New York Post.

    He made headlines in 2012 when it was revealed that he had been beaten by correction officers while hogtied in shackles.

    Hinton won a settlement against the city two months ago.

    Suspicion will surely be directed toward city officials and the police department now that it may get out of paying the nearly half a million settlement, according to The Free Thought Project.

    Hinton's mother eerily recalls a strange conversation she had with him before he died.

    “He felt like something was going to happen to him,” Parys Johnson said.

    “We had this conversation Thursday. And his words to me were, ‘You know mom, if something happens to me, make sure (my girlfriend) Michelle and the baby’s all right.’"

    Currently there are no leads in Hinton's killing.
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    Suspicion will surely be directed toward city officials and the police department now that it may get out of paying the nearly half a million settlement, according to The Free Thought Project.

    That's it? They get out of it? Wouldn't they have to still pay him which would go to his family?

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    Police End Hostage Situation by Killing the Hostage — Who Had Sued Them Over an Earlier SWAT Raid

    William Norman Grigg

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...ier-swat-raid/

    The only casualty of an hours-long SWAT raid and hostage situation in Neenah, Wisconsin was a disabled veteran who had filed a $50 million civil rights suit after he survived a similar SWAT raid three years ago.

    Michael Funk, a co-owner of Eagle Nation Cycles, was shot and killed by police after being held hostage for several hours on December 5. Police evacuated several buildings and closed down an entire street in the city, which is located about 40 miles south of Green Bay.

    “Mike worked there,” observed attorney Cole White, who had represented him in his lawsuit against the City of Neenah and its police department. “Mike was a hostage … not a suspect, he was not involved criminally. He was a hostage that was taken at gunpoint by this maniac.”

    A suspect was taken into custody at about 1:00 PM. His name has not been released, nor has the name of the officer who killed Funk. The official story is that Funk, who had a concealed carry license, refused to drop his gun in response to police commands after he fled the building.According to the preliminary police account, the still-unidentified officer who killed Funk was shot and suffered trivial injuries. It isn’t known how the hostage situation began.

    In 2012, the Lake Winnebago Area Metropolitan Enforcement Group staged a SWAT raid at Eagle Nation Cycles that resulted in 15 felony charges against business owner Steven Erato – all of which were dismissed. He was eventually convicted of misdemeanor marijuana possession.

    “They threw everything but the kitchen sink at him, and it turned out to be nothing,” observed White, who is still representing Erato in the federal lawsuit.

    During the raid, “The hyper-militarized force parked an armored tank-like vehicle outside of Eagle Nation, stormed the building, bombarding the occupants with assault weapons drawn, screaming profanities and abuse, all while wearing plainclothes (ununiformed) and face masks,” recounted the lawsuit. The raid was supposedly justified because an informant with the task force supposedly witnessed a drug deal in the alley behind the motorcycle shop on the previous day.

    The objective of the raid was to close down the business and seize the property on which it stood through “asset forfeiture,” the suit contends. Just days ago, the City of Neenah had filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit.

    It’s likely that one of the “tank-like” vehicles employed in the most recent raid at Eagle Nation Cycles was the $770,000 “Peacekeeper” armored vehicle, which the department obtained for “free” six months ago through the Pentagon’s notorious 1033 “surplus property” program.

    Responding to concerns expressed by municipal officials that acquisition of the “Peacekeeper” signified that the department is “moving … philosophically toward becoming a military, agents of the federal government, much like the military would be, I certainly don’t agree with that at all,” Neenah Police Chief Kevin Wilkinson told the Green Bay Fox Affiliate. Wilkinson described the vehicle as similar in size and construction to “a snow plow or a garbage truck.”

    The “Peacekeeper” replaced the armored vehicle that had been used during the first SWAT assault on Eagle Nation Cycles, which was made in 1979 and was considered “incapable of keeping people safe from some of the armaments that have been used in the last few years,” Chief Wilkinson continues.

    Neenah Mayor Dean Kaufert clearly identified the “people” whose safety he prioritized: “The one thing I don’t want to do during my tenure as mayor is … to go to a policeman’s funeral. And so if this vehicle can protect them I’m willing to accept that.”

    The “Peacekeeper” did nothing to protect Michael Funk, whom the Neenah Police supposedly set out to rescue. His death was the product of either incomprehensible misfortune or uncanny – and malicious – marksmanship on the part of a police department that institutionally had cause to resent him.

    Mayor Kaufert has not indicated whether he will be attending Funk’s funeral, but given that the deceased was a plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit against the city it’s likely that Kaufert and Wilkinson will somehow contain their bereavement.

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    UPDATE:
    Police Lied! Gunned Hostage Down Without Any Warning (GRAPHIC VIDEO)

    Michael Funk was a hostage inside Eagle Nation Cycles on December 5th, 2015. Somehow he was able to escape this captor and exit the building. As I mentioned back in December that’s when Funk ran into another problem. Several police officers were waiting outside and wasted no time in opening fire on the man who had a multi-million dollar lawsuit against them.

    According to the Post-Crecent of Appleton:

    Police officers gave hostage Michael L. Funk no warning to drop his handgun before they shot and killed him Dec. 5 outside Eagle Nation Cycles, according to video evidence obtained exclusively by USA TODAY NETWORK-Wisconsin.

    A prepared statement that was issued by Neenah Police Chief Kevin Wilkinson about 10 hours after the shooting said Funk was shot after he didn’t obey police commands to drop his handgun.
    http://www.copblock.org/159099/polic...thout-warning/



    Original article here: http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story...ning/83595386/

    Last edited by phill4paul; 04-28-2016 at 02:57 PM.

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    White guy...move along.

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    ^video pulled, but I don't need to see it to know that the pigs knocked him off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    ^video pulled, but I don't need to see it to know that the pigs knocked him off.
    Youtube must have yanked it. You can watch it on the copblock site (non-youtube) http://www.copblock.org/159099/polic...thout-warning/

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    Goons gonna goon... That's what they do...
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