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    NEW YORK -- New York City's new warning label for salt-laden chain restaurant food is headed for a court fight, after restaurateurs sued Thursday to argue that health regulators overstepped legal bounds to enact the first-of-its-kind requirement.

    The National Restaurant Association's suit came just two days after the rule took effect, compelling chain eateries to put a salt-shaker icon on menu items that top the recommended daily limit of 2,300 milligrams of sodium - about a teaspoon. The group had vowed to challenge the city Board of Health-approved rule, which will sprinkle salt warnings on some dishes ranging from burgers to pizzas to salads.

    "Ironically, this regulation will confuse and mislead consumers into potentially making less healthy food choices through the law's spotty, inconsistent application and inaccurate scientific distortions," says a copy of the suit, which the association said it filed in a Manhattan court late Thursday; it wasn't immediately available on electronic records.

    The association says the health board overstepped its legal bounds and is muddying waters at a time when federal regulators are working on nationwide menu labeling rules. The suit also brands the salt warning "nonsensical" in applying to only some food vendors and argues it violates restaurateurs' free speech rights by forcing them to post a warning they dispute as based on "scientifically controversial opinion."

    The city Law Department said it would review the claims but was "confident that the Board of Health has the authority to enact this rule."

    Public-health experts say the symbol will help diners see how salty some dishes can be. Some cheeseburgers can count over 4,000 mg of salt, for instance. Even some salads can top 3,000.

    "I think one of the things the salt labeling will do is point out to people how much salt is in food that they may not be aware of. For instance, whole wheat bread can have more salt than a bag of potato chips," Dr. Jonathan Newman, a cardiologist and assistant professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center, told CBS News.

    Partly due to all this "hidden" salt, "the average American eats two to three times the recommended daily intake of salt a day, which we know is very tightly linked to the development of high blood pressure, a very important cause of stroke and heart disease," Newman said.

    Many experts say Americans are eating too much salt - the U.S. average is about 3,400 mg of sodium per day - and the high-salt diet is raising their risks of high blood pressure and heart problems.

    But salt producers note that some research has found otherwise. An international study involving 100,000 people suggested last year that most people's salt intake was OK for heart health, though other scientists have faulted the study.

    "Regulations to discourage salt consumption are sending the wrong message," said Lori Roman, president of the Salt Institute, which is supporting the restaurant association's lawsuit.

    New York has faced lawsuits over other healthy-eating measures it has pioneered. The challenges have had mixed results: Courts upheld a requirement for chain eateries to post calorie counts on menus but struck down a size limit on sugary drinks.

    The salt warning will apply to an estimated 10 percent of menu items of chains with at least 15 outlets nationwide, according to health officials. They say those chains do about one-third of the city's restaurant business.

    Despite the lawsuit, some chains are on board with the salt warning rule. Panera CEO Ron Shaich has said he supports it, and 40 New York City-area Applebee's made a point of complying before the effective date, with Apple-Metro CEO Zane Tankel saying he felt it was important to give customers information.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/restaura...arning-labels/
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    Without discussing wether the sodium limit is at the right number this article is BS.

    The National Restaurant Association's suit came just two days after the rule took effect, compelling chain eateries to put a salt-shaker icon on menu items that top the recommended daily limit of 2,300 milligrams of sodium - about a teaspoon. The group had vowed to challenge the city Board of Health-approved rule, which will sprinkle salt warnings on some dishes ranging from burgers to pizzas to salads.
    Sodium is one element in salt.

    Public-health experts say the symbol will help diners see how salty some dishes can be. Some cheeseburgers can count over 4,000 mg of salt, for instance. Even some salads can top 3,000.
    "Salt" is sodium chloride. 4000mg of 'salt' is about the equivalent of 1650mg of sodium.



    Highly confusing for people who are not educated in chemistry at all.



    If you don't want to eat extremely salty, make your own food. Pretty simple. Don't need government for that. In fact, making your own food works a whole lot better without government.
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    How many grams of sodium does a McKracken have, luc?

    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Without discussing wether the sodium limit is at the right number this article is BS.


    Sodium is one element in salt.


    "Salt" is sodium chloride. 4000mg of 'salt' is about the equivalent of 1650mg of sodium.



    Highly confusing for people who are not educated in chemistry at all.



    If you don't want to eat extremely salty, make your own food. Pretty simple. Don't need government for that. In fact, making your own food works a whole lot better without government.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    How many grams of sodium does a McKracken have, luc?
    2.6grams of salt or about 1080mg of sodium.
    "I am a bird"

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    NYC gets OK to issue salt fines during appeal

    NEW YORK (AP) — New York City plans to start enforcing a first-of-its-kind requirement for chain restaurants to use icons to warn patrons of salty foods after getting an appeals court's go-ahead Thursday to start issuing fines. But it's not the final word on whether the regulation will stand.

    The novel rule took effect in December, and some eateries already have added the requisite salt-shaker-like icons to menu items that contain more salt than doctors recommend ingesting in an entire day.

    But penalties have been in limbo as the National Restaurant Association fights the measure in court. That clash is ongoing, but an appeals court Thursday lifted a temporary hold on issuing the fines while the case plays out. Fines can be up to $600.

    The city will start enforcing the rule June 6.

    Democratic Mayor Bill de Blasio applauded the appeals court's decision on what he called "a common-sense regulation that will help New Yorkers make better decisions and lead healthier lives." The city won the first round of the lawsuit in a trial court in February; the restaurant association appealed.

    The group called on the city Thursday to delay enforcement voluntarily until the appeal is resolved.

    "Today's decision ... will force the men and women that own New York City's restaurants to start complying with this unlawful and unprecedented sodium mandate before the court has the chance to rule on the merits of our appeal," the organization said in a statement.

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    http://www.fox5ny.com/news/local-news/145569935-story
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    NEW YORK (AP) — New York City's pioneering requirement for chain restaurants to flag salty items on their menus is both legal and beneficial, an appeals court said Friday, rejecting a restaurant-industry challenge to the rule.

    The city Board of Health "acted legally, constitutionally and well within its authority in adopting this limited yet salutary rule," a panel of Supreme Court Appellate Division judges wrote, upholding a lower court ruling.

    The rule dates to 2015, and many of the thousands of eateries it covers already are using the salt-shaker-like emblems, required for any dish with more than a full day's recommended dose of sodium. But the National Restaurant Association has been fighting the regulation, and the group said Friday it is examining options for its next move.

    At a time when federal health officials say 9 out of 10 Americans are eating too much sodium, raising risks of heart disease and stroke, the city says the warning symbols simply help diners see how salty some dishes can be. Even some fast-food salads can top 3,000 milligrams of salt; the recommended limit for a whole day is 2,300 mg, or about a teaspoon.

    "We are all tempted to make unhealthy choices, but thanks to the Health Department and the Appellate Division, we have the information to avoid them," Democratic Mayor Bill de Blasio said in a statement, calling the court decision "a common-sense ruling."

    The restaurant association argued the warning icon requirement confuses customers, violates restaurateurs' free speech rights and goes beyond the health board's authority.

    "Local mandates on sodium regulation are a costly and onerous burden," association Executive Vice President Cicely Simpson said in a statement Friday. The group noted that the federal Food and Drug Administration released sodium guidelines last year for foods from cereals to pizzas, though those guidelines are voluntary and not yet final, and it's unclear what approach new President Donald Trump's administration may take to them.

    A salt-producers trade group, the Salt Institute, meanwhile, notes that some research challenges the underlying goal of getting people to eat less salt. A 2014 international study involving 100,000 people, for instance, suggested most people's salt intake was OK for heart health, though other scientists faulted the research.

    New York's regulation applies to about 3,300 restaurants citywide, all chains with at least 15 outlets nationwide. About 10 percent of their menu items qualify for the warnings, health officials have estimated.

    More than 300 restaurants have been cited with violations, but overall, more than 80 percent of eateries inspected haven't had any, the city Health Department said. The regulation allows for fines up to $600, but the city didn't begin levying them until June, partly because of legal action. Information wasn't immediately available Friday on how much fines have totaled.

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    http://www.newser.com/article/a31665...staurants.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    I Banned NY City in the 80's .






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