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  1. #331
    Regarding the misidentification and quantifying of shooters, I have a slight suspicion that the weird guy they keep interviewing who owned a business across the way and was over there establishing a one-man perimeter.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.



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    Registry, background checks, magazine limits couldn't stop this. Nothing you propose will stop this.

    In a few short years as long the Right Wing keep going with the Pro NRA stance America will be like Venezuela with all the gun related shootings and crimes. Funny how Japan has no gun shooting or gun related crimes eh? nice try though.


    Just how many more shootings or gun related crimes would it take you pro gun activists to get it through your heads? when it comes to the guns America s a land of lawless


    Its no wonder why some Republicans defend the Syrian and Libyan rebels by giving them arms that says alot actually
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 12-05-2015 at 11:39 PM.

  4. #333
    How nice insults.

    "Stay in Canada"

    Is this the best civilized discussion with you gun activists? its no wonder why some of you are backing trump.

    Having no laws and having no Registry, background checks wont prevent future gun related crimes by your logic your suggesting that the criminal organizations also has the right bear to arms right?
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 12-05-2015 at 11:46 PM.

  5. #334
    Has anyone in this thread yet mentioned that Putin did it?
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  6. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    How nice insults.

    "Stay in Canada"
    It probably wasn't an insult but rather a suggestion.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  7. #336
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    How nice insults.

    "Stay in Canada"

    Is this the best civilized discussion with you gun activists? its no wonder why some of you are backing trump.

    Having no laws and having no Registry, background checks wont prevent future gun related crimes by your logic your suggesting that the criminal organizations also has the right bear to arms right?
    What part of "Shall not be infringed" leaves you able to question the verbiage?

    Maybe you should buck for a place on the US supreme court, those idiots can make stuff up too........



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  9. #337
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Where the Shooters for two hours after the shooting? They still had bombs and ammo.
    Are you suggesting there is a stink on this story?
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  10. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Registry, background checks, magazine limits couldn't stop this. Nothing you propose will stop this.

    In a few short years as long the Right Wing keep going with the Pro NRA stance America will be like Venezuela with all the gun related shootings and crimes.
    Well, the empirical evidence greatly refutes your claim.

    Funny how Japan has no gun shooting or gun related crimes eh? nice try though.
    What is your point, that death by gun is less preferable to death by other means?

    Just how many more shootings or gun related crimes would it take you pro gun activists to get it through your heads?
    I could ask the same of you. Your apparent ignorance of the reality seems vast and profound. Crime rates in the United States have steadily declined since the early 1990s when concealed carry became more common. As the number of people carrying daily has increased, the crime rates have decreased, contrary to the predictions that we would be wading hip-deep in blood.

    when it comes to the guns America s [sic] a land of lawless
    There are ignorant statements and there are stupid ones. This qualifies as both.

    Its [sic] no wonder why some Republicans defend the Syrian and Libyan rebels by giving them arms that says alot actually
    And this is supposed to be taken as anything other than trollery? Even Obama isn't that stupid.
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  11. #339
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Registry, background checks, magazine limits couldn't stop this. Nothing you propose will stop this.
    Breathe, let go of the hysteria, and regain control of yourself.

    In a few short years as long the Right Wing keep going with the Pro NRA stance America will be like Venezuela with all the gun related shootings and crimes.
    Really we're rather crime free. You should stop overloading your brain with media driven hysteria. I'm 44 and have never been shot.

    Funny how Japan has no gun shooting or gun related crimes eh? nice try though.


    Just how many more shootings or gun related crimes would it take you pro gun activists to get it through your heads?
    Not the best spokesman, but I think he makes a valid point. "Would you feel any better little girl, if they were pushed out a window?"


    when it comes to the guns America s a land of lawless
    Wrong. Again calmly step away from the media driven hysteria.

    Its no wonder why some Republicans defend the Syrian and Libyan rebels by giving them arms that says alot actually
    Democrats too. Google kids maimed or killed by drones. Disarm the government 1st. American citizens can't claim the death toll anywhere near the MIC. Maybe the question should be: "Would you feel any better little girl, if they were bombed by government drones?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Registry, background checks, magazine limits couldn't stop this. Nothing you propose will stop this.

    In a few short years as long the Right Wing keep going with the Pro NRA stance America will be like Venezuela with all the gun related shootings and crimes. Funny how Japan has no gun shooting or gun related crimes eh? nice try though.


    Just how many more shootings or gun related crimes would it take you pro gun activists to get it through your heads? when it comes to the guns America s a land of lawless


    Its no wonder why some Republicans defend the Syrian and Libyan rebels by giving them arms that says alot actually
    You don't seem to get it. The right to bear arms doesn't come from the NRA or the government. I for one have no respect for the NRA, but that doesn't mean I want to surrender my right to bear arms. If you Canadians want to surrender your rights to the illusion that the government will protect you, that is certainly your choice. My right to defend my life is not dependent upon what the people of socialist Canada dream up. You keep trusting in your almighty government and I will keep trusting myself.
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  13. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    How nice insults.

    "Stay in Canada"

    Is this the best civilized discussion with you gun activists? its no wonder why some of you are backing trump.

    Having no laws and having no Registry, background checks wont prevent future gun related crimes by your logic your suggesting that the criminal organizations also has the right bear to arms right?
    Criminal organizations don't need no stinkin' laws- they can get guns whenever they want them. It's the "law abiding" citizens in "gun-free" zones who are in danger.

    "An armed society is a polite society."
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  14. #342
    Pakistani security seeks to tamp down reporting on California shooter
    MULTAN, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistani security forces appeared to be trying to dampen down reporting this weekend on the background of Tashfeen Malik, who mounted an attack alongside her husband that killed 14 people in California.

    Three professors at Malik's university said they had been advised not to talk to the media, while men claiming to be from Pakistan's security agencies told reporters to drop their investigations into her background on pain of arrest.

    An official at the interior ministry later said this was due to a "misunderstanding".

    U.S. authorities are treating last Wednesday's mass shooting in San Bernardino as an "act of terrorism". Malik, 29, and husband Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, were killed two hours later in a shootout with police.

    The Iraq- and Syria-based Islamic State jihadist group has claimed the couple as its followers, although it has not said it was in contact with them or that it directed the attack.

    Malik was born in Pakistan but spent most of her life in Saudi Arabia before she came to the United States to marry her husband, a U.S. citizen. She had a degree in pharmacy from a university in Pakistan's central city of Multan.

    On Sunday, three professors at Bahauddin Zakariya University, which Malik attended, said they had been instructed by security agencies not to speak to reporters.

    One, who asked not to be named, said security officials visited the university on Saturday and removed records and pictures of Tashfeen.

    "She was a very reserved person, a very quiet girl, she kept to herself," the professor said. "I could have never imagined she was capable of something like this. And there was nothing on the surface to suggest she had such extremist tendencies."

    "I think this change in her mind, whenever it happened, must be very recent. The girl I remember ... she could not have the guts to do this."

    Another former professor said he did not remember her at all. "She was probably not someone who stood out, academically or otherwise," he said.

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    Men claiming to be from security agencies, but who refused to provide identification, also sought to discourage Reuters from further reporting on Malik's background, threatening journalists with arrest for unspecified offences.

    "Whether you consider this a request or a dictation (order), I would advise you not to pursue this story," one said.

    Tim Craig, a reporter from the Washington Post, tweeted that police had prevented him from leaving his hotel in Multan.

    "I've lost track of how many different security/intel officials I've had to talk to, copy my passport, etc in past 17 hours - think 12 to 16," he tweeted.

    Reuters was eventually allowed to continue reporting with a police escort provided for security reasons.

    An interior ministry official later told Reuters the situation had been the result of a misunderstanding by over-enthusiastic local police.

    "This is not our policy. We have nothing to hide, and we want to facilitate journalists," the official, who did not wish to be named, said.

    Several security officials said the restrictions on the press were partly due to Pakistani fears that the country would be blamed for Malik's actions.

    "Pakistan has nothing to do with this but it will be used to malign Pakistan. So of course we have to care about how this is being seen and reported," one official said.

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    https://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-sec...170809069.html
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  15. #343
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/06...isis-dad-says/

    San Bernardino gunman obsessed with ISIS and Israel, dad says

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    My son said that he shared [ISIS leader Abu Bakr] Al Baghdadi’s ideology and supported the creation of the Islamic State,” said Farook's dad, also named Syed Farook, who lives in Corona, Calif., with another son who is a Navy veteran. “He was also obsessed with Israel.”

    I told him he had to stay calm and be patient because in two years Israel will not exist anymore,” the elder Farook told La Stampa in an article published Sunday. The foreign language daily’s report was translated in part by The Times of Israel.

    (more at link)
    LOL. The Dad was such a great influence. "I understand son, but they'll all be dead in two years just wait." Way to calm him down. A real peace maker.

  16. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    LOL. The Dad was such a great influence. "I understand son, but they'll all be dead in two years just wait." Way to calm him down. A real peace maker.
    Whoa, you did not quote the next paragraph. This is out of context.



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Whoa, you did not quote the next paragraph. This is out of context.

    ^^^

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    “I told him he had to stay calm and be patient because in two years Israel will not exist anymore,” the elder Farook told La Stampa in an article published Sunday. The foreign language daily’s report was translated in part by The Times of Israel.

    Geopolitics is changing: Russia, China and America don’t want Jews there anymore. They are going to bring the Jews back to Ukraine. What is the point of fighting? We have already done it and we lost. Israel is not to be fought with weapons, but with politics. But he did not listen to me, he was obsessed,” the father said in the interview, according to The Times of Israel.
    The most under-reported story of the decade, if true.

    However, Russia doesn't want jews to the point that they would sacrifice Ukraine?

    Doubtful, Faroooook
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  20. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Whoa, you did not quote the next paragraph. This is out of context.
    A little I suppose, but the main gist is that his Dad isn't against his idea of a dominant Islam. Just thinks jihad is unnecessary. But implicitly condones the religious tensions.

  21. #348
    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    The most under-reported story of the decade, if true.

    However, Russia doesn't want jews to the point that they would sacrifice Ukraine?

    Doubtful, Faroooook
    They (and I don't mean Putin and the other Russian faces/suits) remember the Bolsheviks...

    Brzyneski and his ilk have had morning wood for the Russian people for a long time.


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