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I have kids, and mine aren't autistic. Guess i knew better?
You realize that while there is no evidence to back up any of your Youtube theories, there is evidence that autism is genetic? Maybe that's why those moms are so anxious to blame everybody else ... they do not want to blame themselves.
Last edited by angelatc; 12-01-2015 at 01:23 AM.
Let me clear something up for you here, woman. Just STFU and read and try to understand what I'm writing and maybe you won't come across as such a miserable old harpy so often.
By your own admission you have no idea what any of these parents are going through. If you click through on your link and read that article with a critical mind it's really easy to see that the science contained in your article is not in any way better than the science that you're taking exception to. Not only is the entire thing basically a correlation / causation fallacy, but it's not even a good one. They're relying on numbers of 10% and smaller to try to peg this to genetics.
It's the exact same thing that we see with respect to Autism coming from the medical industrial complex all the time. Autism is just a giant bucket that we throw retarded kids into. It doesn't matter whether these children have polar opposites symptoms from one kid to the next, it doesn't matter that one is basically able to function in society and the other is 30 and not toilet trained. And it apparently doesn't matter either how bad the studies actually are . That's the bucket, see, and that's where these kids go.
The reason why people go for these crazy ideas is because the only option is to give up hope. Again this is not something that I expect you to understand because apparently you had normal kids. Why don't you quit $#@!ing gloating about it. I'm glad your life went well and that you didn't have any big problems to overcome. Some of us do and we'd really appreciate it if you would simply shut the $#@! up about things you don't know about.
I don't particularly believe in the autism vaccine link but I'm also not showing up here $#@!ting on everybody's hope all the time. Now I've watched you get outright destroyed on the intellectual argument about vaccines multiple times here over the last year. If we have to start destroying you on moral grounds then that's what we're going to do. So please, for your sake and ours, in for the sake of this conversation actually potentially helping some of the people who are looking for answers and not getting them from your vaunted medical industrial complex, just go away.
Last edited by fisharmor; 12-01-2015 at 07:54 AM.
There are no crimes against people.
There are only crimes against the state.
And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.
As a chemist and for the record, sodium chlorite (NaClO2) reacts with acid to produce chlorine dioxide (ClO2), chlorous acid (HClO2), sodium chlorate (NaClO3) and sodium chloride (NaCl). These species exist in an equilibrium that's dependent on the solution's pH. Chlorine dioxide formation is favored and occurs at very low pH i.e. 1.0-2.5; chlorous acid is favored and occurs at pH 4.0-5.0. Chlorine dioxide is a corrosive, toxic gas which is liberated from solutions of sodium chlorite when an acid is added. The boiling point of chlorine dioxide is 52F. Max solubility is 80,000ppm at 75F.
If you are adding citric acid to MMS for the purpose of generating chlorine dioxide, you would need to acidify the solution to less than <2.50 and keep if cool. However, the solution is highly acidic and highly corrosive - especially to skin, mucous membranes, etc. - and you're also liberating a toxic gas, which is also explosive and doesn't need air to burn because the decomposition of chlorine dioxide liberates oxygen.
Some questions to ask promoters of this remedy:
What concentration of sodium chlorite or chlorine dioxide is most beneficial?
How do you test the solution to determine NaClO2 concentration?
How do you test the solution to determine ClO2 concentration?
What is the stoichiometry of the reaction and what are the concentrations of the reactants and products?
Some other interesting items:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300068122.html
"While NP001's slowing of decline in the primary and secondary measures of the study was not statistically significant, clinically meaningful slowing of progression was observed in patients with greater baseline inflammation, such that patients who received the high dose of NP001 (2 mg/kg) achieved a 41 percent improvement versus placebo. "
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...45953943484054
http://www.neuraltus.com/clinicaltrials/
Like most 'miracle' cures, there's usually some bit of truth or fact buried deep in the BS and which a good charlatan will seize upon. You have to be able to sort through it using science, facts and an unbiased critical thinking process. So while drinking sodium chlorite or chlorine dioxide solutions probably won't do anything but aggravate your digestive tract, clinical trials of an intravenous drug called NP001 - which is believed to be some sort of sodium chlorite solution, but not confirmed - shows some progress in slowing ALS and other neurologic disorders.
I believe that people own their own bodies and can ingest whatever they like, however you should be fully informed before undertaking any sort of self-medication and understand that there are people in this world who would take advantage of sick people that want to believe in a miracle cure, just to sell some books or pills or make some money. They don't all work for the government you know.
Anyhow, do your own due diligence, try not to let your hope for a cure cloud your thinking and good luck.
Last edited by ghengis86; 12-01-2015 at 08:34 AM.
Tons of food items that you eat have parasites, some good some bad. Take a microscope with you the next time you east sushi, you will get the same results.
Besides, what harm is it to add a few parasites to your body when its already infiltrated with billions of them in the first place?
When you are a child, they are transferred from your mom as soon as she touches you for the first time. Are moms now not supposed to touch their children ... ever?
Last edited by RandPaul4Prez; 12-01-2015 at 10:15 AM.
The videos that I presented are new findings. The autism is genetic theory is an old argument and if you didn't know already, big pharma conducts these studies and always manipulates the data in their favor.
If autism was also genetic, we would not see an increase in the number of cases so rapidly. In 2013 1 in 65 kids had autism and now its 1 in 45 in 2015.
There are environmental factors here at play and lately they point to glyphosate.
I have presented new evidence (that big pharma wants to keep secret) and you have presented old arguments.
Also, big pharma is in the middle of testing and making patents with drugs that contain MMS and CDS, so its safe to say that they are effective, its just that big pharma wants these for themselves and they want to charge outrageous prices, like they always have.
i dont understand why some people on here cant simply respect others' freedom to choose against vaccines and for healthy eating/living
Also look into Advance TRS Zeolite
This product has been miraculous in removing the toxic heavy metals from the brain that vaccines leave behind.
Gut-Brain Connection? Leaky Gut? No longer “Crazy Talk” says AAP
The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) has just taken a giant leap toward recognizing the association between gastrointestinal problems and Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD.) The November 2012 issue of their journal, Pediatrics, has a 200-page supplement entitled Improving Health Care for Children and Youth With Autism and Other Neurodevelopmental Disorders (Note: this guide was not currently available online.) As I perused the various articles to see what the AAP was up to, one particular gem caught my eye: Gastrointestinal (GI) Conditions in Children With Autism Spectrum Disorder: Developing a Research Agenda. Curiously optimistic, I decided to pause the Saturday-afternoon college football game and read the article. After a mere three sentences, my jaw dropped. “Many individuals with ASDs have symptoms of associated medical conditions, including seizures, sleep problems, metabolic conditions, and gastrointestinal disorders (the italics are mine), which have significant health, developmental, social, and educational impacts.” A few lines later I found there is a “lack of recognition by clinicians that certain behavioral manifestations in children with ASDs are indicators of GI problems (eg, pain, discomfort, or nausea).”
More:
http://tacanowblog.com/2012/11/08/gu...talk-says-aap/
well id have to look up alot of searches to be exact for sure.. but suffice it to say there are those who denigrate people who so choose to believe in natural science as I call it. It may be true that vaccines benefit some people, but the major reason that people get sick in the first place is because they already are sick.. Theyre sick because of what they put in their bodies.. their habits.. their sloth, etc. trying to make people healthy by relying on man-made means seems folly to me when man-made means is what is making them sick in the first place.
I think it has more to do with the fact that this particular horse has been beaten to death, pounded until tender, roasted and served to the forum members eons ago, shat out, beaten and served again multiple times. In short, most/all the people here have already made up their minds for the most part and wont be changing it. There is no real unheard constructive discourse to be had.
Checked out their link to the paper. http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...plement_2/S160
It notes:
This likely reflects several factors, including variability in reported rates of GI disorders, controversies regarding the relationship between GI symptoms and the putative causes of autism, the limited verbal capacity of many ASD patients, and the lack of recognition by clinicians that certain behavioral manifestations in children with ASDs are indicators of GI problems (eg, pain, discomfort, or nausea).4–10means that some have GI disorders, some don't. If GI disorders were the cause of ASD, one would expect to find them in most if not all ASD patients.variability in reported rates of GI disorders
It also adds:
Meaning no link has been found but they actually suggest that it is ASD which is a cause of the GI issues, not the GI issues causing ASD symptoms.Whether GI issues in this population are directly related to the pathophysiology of autism, or are strictly a comorbid condition of ASD remains to be determined,
Going to their data http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...0.figures-only they include this chart:
Reported prevalence of gastrointestinal disorders in children with ASD.
which shows in most cases less than one third had GI issues. When they examined dietary intake on those individuals, they noted many deficiencies (see link for more details).
One study they looked at noted:
1. Only 4 subjects with ASD (7.4%) met recommended servings from all food groups.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-01-2015 at 01:54 PM.
FYI, When somebody responds on topic with analysis that shows they have read, thought about and understand the discussion and you respond with a customized troll graphic rational people are going to conclude that you are trolling. Maybe you've already given up on trying to reach rational people though.
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