Does United States owe an apology to people of Iraq for 2003 invasion?

[r3volution 3.0]

Yes, apology only (and to be clear, this apology is to come explicitly from the US government, not from Americans in general).

No reparations because the funds could only be obtained by robbing innocent American taxpayers.

No war crimes because $#@! the UN, though I'd be fine with some trials in US courts.

[The Gold Standard]

No war crimes because $#@! the UN, though I'd be fine with some trials in US courts.

I was thinking trials should be in Iraqi courts.

[r3volution 3.0]

I was thinking trials should be in Iraqi courts.

I thought "war crimes" implied UN, but yea, trying them in Iraqi courts is fine by me.

On another note, I had assumed that reparations would be from the US government; but if it's from the guilty individuals themselves, that'll work.

[timosman]

I thought "war crimes" implied UN, but yea, trying them in Iraqi courts is fine by me.

On another note, I had assumed that reparations would be from the US government; but if it's from the guilty individuals themselves, that'll work.

Didn't they have an umbrella insurance for the invasion? Let the underwriters pay.

[robert68]

A non-interventionist foreign policy toward them and free trade will be better than "reparations" (most of which will never get to the right people) would ever be. In any case, some relevant history:

US and British Support for Hussein Regime:

US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks.

Exclusive: CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran.
The U.S. knew Hussein was launching some of the worst chemical attacks in history -- and still gave him a hand.

United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war

[The Gold Standard]

I thought "war crimes" implied UN, but yea, trying them in Iraqi courts is fine by me.

On another note, I had assumed that reparations would be from the US government; but if it's from the guilty individuals themselves, that'll work.

Well, yeah. I wouldn't agree to the government just printing up the money or stealing it from us. I had nothing to do with destroying Iraq. The people responsible should pay out of pocket.

[tod evans]

How about an apology from Iraq for not cleaning up their own psychopathic sociopathic megalomaniac $#@! of a dictator?

As a people us citizens here in the USA are equally guilty of not cleaning our own house.......

[euphemia]

Whether he had them in the second war is debatable but part of the desert storm ceasefire agreement UN inspectors went into Iraq and dismantled what he said he had.

He had them. He used them in several small operations, then killed at least 5000 Kurds in 1988. Twice as many were injured in that attack, and there have been lingering effects ever since.

[Contumacious]

Does United States owe an apology to people of Iraq for 2003 invasion that was based on bogus claims and resulted in killing/maimimg/exile of millions of Iraqi muslims and christians of arab race?

ABSO-$#@!ING-LUTELY.

EVEN BETTER IF THEY COULD INDICT AND EXTRADITE WAR CRIMINAL BUSH II.


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[Danke]

He had them. He used them in several small operations, then killed at least 5000 Kurds in 1988. Twice as many were injured in that attack, and there have been lingering effects ever since.

Desert Storm was in 1991.

[timosman]

He had them. He used them in several small operations, then killed at least 5000 Kurds in 1988. Twice as many were injured in that attack, and there have been lingering effects ever since.

Of course he had them, we have the receipts from his purchase. Where do you think he bought them?

[69360]

No apologies, they made their own fate by keeping Saddam in power.

Still there was never a reason for the invasion even if Iraq did have WMD.

[robert68]

As a people us citizens here in the USA are equally guilty of not cleaning our own house.......

Only those responsible for the "filthy house" are guilty.

[CPUd]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...s-To-Come-Back!

[tod evans]

Only those to blame for the "filthy house" are guilty.

Those who have the ability to "clean house" and don't are to blame aren't they?

Most folks don't even recognize that the house is messy.......

[Ronin Truth]

As a people us citizens here in the USA are equally guilty of not cleaning our own house.......

TJ said a revolution is necessary every 20 years just to keep the government "honest"(so-called).

I still figure we're just about 12 revolutions overdue.

Can you tell?

[tod evans]

TJ said a revolution is necessary every 20 years just to keep the government "honest"(so-called).

I still figure we're just about 12 revolutions overdue.

Can you tell?

Yup.....

[kcchiefs6465]

He had them. He used them in several small operations, then killed at least 5000 Kurds in 1988. Twice as many were injured in that attack, and there have been lingering effects ever since.

Donald Rumsfield secured the contracts. As if the US didn't supply him with biological contaminants they knew he'd weaponize.

[kcchiefs6465]

No apologies, they made their own fate by keeping Saddam in power.

Still there was never a reason for the invasion even if Iraq did have WMD.

They made the fate of the US bombing a country because they kept someone in power?

Someone who quite probably was only in power because the US was meddling in Iraq for forty years?

I believe the terrorists say something similar after a suicide bombing.

[charrob]

Well, yeah. I wouldn't agree to the government just printing up the money or stealing it from us. I had nothing to do with destroying Iraq. The people responsible should pay out of pocket.

The people responsible are those who vote for warmongers every 4 years in elections. That would be all those who vote for the D's and R's with the exception of the handful of people on the right and left, as well as independents, who refuse to go along with the indefinite slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people and the maiming of millions. In other words, that would be most voting Americans since they're the ones who put these people in charge in every single election.

[heavenlyboy34]

As a people us citizens here in the USA are equally guilty of not cleaning our own house.......

Who is this "us" you speak of? Got a mouse in your pocket?

[tod evans]

Who is this "us" you speak of? Got a mouse in your pocket?

You're in this handbasket right along with me Bucko....

[Ender]

You're in this handbasket right along with me Bucko....

Yup.

I find it interesting that many will blame all of Islam for the actions of a few but take no responsibility for our own country's wars and criminal acts.

[enhanced_deficit]

Axis of SWCs honor one of their own.






Bush, Biden joke and praise Cheney at his bust unveiling

Posted: Dec 03, 2015 2:58 PM EST

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- At a ceremony that took on the air of a Republican family reunion complete with laughs, hugs and selfies, Dick Cheney was hailed Thursday as his bust was unveiled at the U.S. Capitol.

[surf]

voted yes and no rep's because I can't afford it. if you're talking about reparations from warmongers only - I can get behind that.

[enhanced_deficit]

Romania: police find 91 migrants from Syria, Iraq in truck

Published June 27, 2017 Associated Press



BUCHAREST, Romania – Romanian border police have found 91 migrants from Iraq and Syria hidden in a truck transporting auto parts. They told police they were trying to reach the visa-free Schengen travel zone.
Police stopped and searched the vehicle with Turkish plates early Tuesday at the crossing point between Nadlac and Csanadpalota in Hungary. According to documents, it was transporting the parts to Norway.

Police found 44 men, 18 women and 29 minors aged 2 to 17. The migrants told police they wanted to reach the Schengen zone. Hungary is a member, but Romania isn't.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06...-in-truck.html





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[Origanalist]

Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!

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The threads never go away, they just get moldy.

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[juleswin]

Yes, apology only (and to be clear, this apology is to come explicitly from the US government, not from Americans in general).

No reparations because the funds could only be obtained by robbing innocent American taxpayers.

No war crimes because $#@! the UN, though I'd be fine with some trials in US courts.

So if the state police conducts a drug raid in the wrong house(your house). Burns your house down and all the valuables inside it. Are you telling me that you would refuse monetary compensation from the state because money would have to be stolen to make you even?