Does United States owe an apology to people of Iraq for 2003 invasion?

[enhanced_deficit]

Does United States owe an apology to people of Iraq for 2003 invasion that was based on bogus claims and resulted in killing/maimimg/exile of millions of Iraqi muslims and christians of arab race?

[Zippyjuan]

Would it make things better for the Iraqis if they did?

[enhanced_deficit]

Would it make things better for the Iraqis if they did?

When Justice is delivered after a wrong action, does that make things better for the people receiving justice or not?

Poll lists more justice options and not just a verbal apology.

[timosman]

No, Iraq is a better place w/o Saddam. We also made $#@!load of cash.

[TheTexan]

They should apologize to us, for making us think they might have WMD's

[TheTexan]

No, Iraq is a better place w/o Saddam. We also made $#@!load of cash.

Hell ya, my Lockheed Martin stock has gone through the roof since 2001

[enhanced_deficit]

No, Iraq is a better place w/o Saddam. We also made $#@!load of cash.

If there are trials, cash may possibly go back to Iraqi families of victims in reparations for our collective blunder.

But is Iraq better off since freedom spread there?

[The Gold Standard]

There should be trials and reparations should come out of the pocket of the politicians responsible. The people here don't owe them anything.

[enhanced_deficit]

They should apologize to us, for making us think they might have WMD's

No , it was just a drama.. there would have been no invasion if we actually thought that they had WMDs.

North Korea actually has WMDs and US doesn't even think about invading them despite NK's dictator saying worse things about Obama than Saddam said about W's dad.

North Korea Media Calls Obama A 'Wicked Black Monkey'
The Huffington Post
May 8, 2014 - North Korea's state news agency KCNA resorted to sickening racist language to lash out at Barack Obama this week, calling the U.S. president "reminiscent of a wicked black monkey." ... According to North Korea blogger Josh Stanton, the second story said Obama "should live as a monkey ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5288121.html


Bush Sr. Doormat in Baghdad Hotel Dismantled
www.foxnews.com/.../bush-sr-doormat-in-baghdad-h...Fox News Channel
Apr 11, 2003 - President Bush the elder — father of the current ... Saddam persoanlly picked ..
There was a bit of unfinished business left over in Baghdad from the 1991 Gulf War. The U.S. Army has taken care of it.
...on Thursday night wielding hammers and chisels, and dug out the intricate tile mosaic of the former president that was used for years as a state-sponsored insult.
In its place, they laid a portrait of Saddam Hussein.
"Everybody walked over it and wiped their feet on it," Lt. Col. Rick Schwartz, the battalion commander said.

There should be trials and reparations should come out of the pocket of the politicians responsible. The people here don't owe them anything.

Good point.

[robert68]

An apology without closing down the army base called the US embassy built there and removing all US troops from their land would be worthless.

[euphemia]

How many millions were maimed, killed, or displaced, exactly? There are almost 10 million more people living in Iraq today than there were in 2003. I'm not saying it was right to go into Iraq in 2003, but I think it is wise to document allegations that millions of people were maimed or killed.

And how would this number compare to the numbers of people who were killed and maimed by Saddam Hussein? He used chemical weapons against the Kurds, most notably in 1988, in Northern Iraq, killing about 5000 and injuring double that. That was only one of the many chemical bombs he used against native born Iraqis.

[klamath]

No , it was just a drama.. there would have been no invasion if we actually thought that they had WMDs.

North Korea actually has WMDs and US doesn't even think about invading them despite NK's dictator saying worse things about Obama than Saddam said about W's dad.

North Korea Media Calls Obama A 'Wicked Black Monkey'
The Huffington Post
May 8, 2014 - North Korea's state news agency KCNA resorted to sickening racist language to lash out at Barack Obama this week, calling the U.S. president "reminiscent of a wicked black monkey." ... According to North Korea blogger Josh Stanton, the second story said Obama "should live as a monkey ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5288121.html


Bush Sr. Doormat in Baghdad Hotel Dismantled
www.foxnews.com/.../bush-sr-doormat-in-baghdad-h...Fox News Channel
Apr 11, 2003 - President Bush the elder — father of the current ... Saddam persoanlly picked ..
There was a bit of unfinished business left over in Baghdad from the 1991 Gulf War. The U.S. Army has taken care of it.
...on Thursday night wielding hammers and chisels, and dug out the intricate tile mosaic of the former president that was used for years as a state-sponsored insult.
In its place, they laid a portrait of Saddam Hussein.
"Everybody walked over it and wiped their feet on it," Lt. Col. Rick Schwartz, the battalion commander said.












Good point.

False. We did invade Iraq when they had WMD's in '91. The dismantling of his wmds happened after that war. I guess if we are going to get into the reprarations you have to take into account all wars of world history and then do a balance sheet on who ended up on the short end. First off are the Iraqi people going to apologize and pay the Iranians for the Iran/Iraq war they started? Sadamn most certainly used WMDs on cities in Iran and the Kurds.

[Danke]

False. We did invade Iraq when they had WMD's in '91. The dismantling of his wmds happened after that war. I guess if we are going to get into the reprarations you have to take into account all wars of world history and then do a balance sheet on who ended up on the short end. First off are the Iraqi people going to apologize and pay the Iranians for the Iran/Iraq war they started? Sadamn most certainly used WMDs on cities in Iran and the Kurds.

[euphemia]

Indeed. We know he had weapons of mass destruction, because he used them on his own people.

[The Gold Standard]

I guess if we are going to get into the reprarations you have to take into account all wars of world history and then do a balance sheet on who ended up on the short end.

This might be a bit much, but hey, I won't object. Our rulers have a lot of money, but even they would have a hard time paying off all of the unwarranted death and destruction they have caused over the decades.

[klamath]

Indeed. We know he had weapons of mass destruction, because he used them on his own people.

Whether he had them in the second war is debatable but part of the desert storm ceasefire agreement UN inspectors went into Iraq and dismantled what he said he had.

[DevilsAdvocate]

[klamath]

This might be a bit much, but hey, I won't object. Our rulers have a lot of money, but even they would have a hard time paying off all of the unwarranted death and destruction they have caused over the millennia.

FIFY

[kcchiefs6465]

How many millions were maimed, killed, or displaced, exactly? There are almost 10 million more people living in Iraq today than there were in 2003. I'm not saying it was right to go into Iraq in 2003, but I think it is wise to document allegations that millions of people were maimed or killed.

And how would this number compare to the numbers of people who were killed and maimed by Saddam Hussein? He used chemical weapons against the Kurds, most notably in 1988, in Northern Iraq, killing about 5000 and injuring double that. That was only one of the many chemical bombs he used against native born Iraqis.

They've poisoned Iraq for billions of years. What do you consider depleted uranium? White phosphorus? Napalm?

As to whether or not millions have died, Madeline Albright accepted the half million figure of children's deaths simply with regards to sanctions and was unapologetic. The United States was the one targeting civilian infrastructure. Not to mention the chemical weapons in Khamisiyah were American and British. Not to mention they denied for the longest time soldiers were having neurological issues and disfigured babies from the exposure to cyclosarin gas and depleted uranium dust. Not to mention the MOPP suits, if ever used when the sirens came on, were defective. But I digress.

Whether it is a million or fifty the United States had no business meddling in Iraq. I feel, and forgive me for being frank, that you are rather uneducated on the matter. The people coming to Iraq were jihadis looking to take part in the US propagated civil war.

Google anencephaly and tell me how many is an acceptable number.

[kcchiefs6465]

Euphemia, do you know who Ahmed Chalabi was (God bless)?

[Ender]

They've poisoned Iraq for billions of years. What do you consider depleted uranium? White phosphorus? Napalm?

As to whether or not millions have died, Madeline Albright accepted the half million figure of children's deaths simply with regards to sanctions and was unapologetic. The United States was the one targeting civilian infrastructure. Not to mention the chemical weapons in Khamisiyah were American and British. Not to mention they denied for the longest time soldiers were having neurological issues and disfigured babies from the exposure to cyclosarin gas and depleted uranium dust. Not to mention the MOPP suits, if ever used when the sirens came on, were defective. But I digress.

Whether it is a million or fifty the United States had no business meddling in Iraq. I feel, and forgive me for being frank, that you are rather uneducated on the matter. The people coming to Iraq were jihadis looking to take part in the US propagated civil war.

Google anencephaly and tell me how many is an acceptable number.

THIS.

Thanks for speaking Truth.

[ZENemy]

There should be trials and reparations should come out of the pocket of the politicians responsible. The people here don't owe them anything.

Yup

[ZENemy]

We're sorry.

[robert68]

How many millions were maimed, killed, or displaced, exactly? There are almost 10 million more people living in Iraq today than there were in 2003. I'm not saying it was right to go into Iraq in 2003, but I think it is wise to document allegations that millions of people were maimed or killed...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iraq

... recent reporting indicates that the overall Christian population may have dropped by as much as 50 percent since the fall of the Saddam Hussein regime in 2003, with many fleeing to Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon (2010 estimate).[1] The percentage of Christians has fallen from 6% in 1991 or 1.5 million to about one third of this, due to massive exodus - two-thirds of Assyrian Christians have fled to other countries in the Middle East, Europe, United States and Canada.

[Ronin Truth]

Well the US Federal government certainly might, since they're the ones who actually did it. Did I just miss the plebiscite on that issue?

[Ronin Truth]

How about an apology from Iraq for not cleaning up their own psychopathic sociopathic megalomaniac $#@! of a dictator?

[Christian Liberty]

I know I voted for contradictory options on the reparations thing. I thik reparations would be warranted but I don't think the politicians have a right to tax us to pay for it. So maybe they should pay reparations from their own incomes. That wouldn't be substantial but it would be a symbolic gesture I guess.

And definitely war crimes styles.

[presence]

In international law, odious debt, also known as illegitimate debt, is a legal theory that holds that the national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation, should not be enforceable.

Odious debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, apology and war crines trials but no reparations

[puppetmaster]

No, Iraq is a better place w/o Saddam. We also made $#@!load of cash.

One of the most dangerous places in the world.

[The Gold Standard]

I know I voted for contradictory options on the reparations thing. I thik reparations would be warranted but I don't think the politicians have a right to tax us to pay for it. So maybe they should pay reparations from their own incomes. That wouldn't be substantial but it would be a symbolic gesture I guess.

If you send them the Bush and Clinton fortunes alone that would go a long way. Get the rest of Congress that authorized it and Bush's cabinet and your looking at a pretty penny.