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    Lawmakers want loophole closed that allows people on terror watchlist to buy guns

    What could possibly go wrong?

    WASHINGTON — Many Democrats and even Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is saying that a loophole needs to be closed that allows thousands of people with ties to terror groups to buy guns.

    While the debate continues on what to do about Syrian refugees, Democrats in the U.S. Senate are warning there's a bigger safety threat from suspected terrorists already in the U.S.

    Individuals on the federal terrorist watch list are allowed to legally buy firearms and explosives.

    “These are people who are either part of a terrorist group or suspected of taking part in terrorist activity,” said David Maurer, with the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...e-terro/npWwH/
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    Who is on this "list"..?

    by what criteria?

    and what is the redress?

    Inquiring minds like to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    What could possibly go wrong?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Does posting on RPF qualify as a terrorist activity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Does posting on RPF qualify as a terrorist activity?
    Not necessarily.
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    Talk about "terrorist activities"... ONE MILLION AMERICANS CANNOT BE WRONG.

    TERROR WATCH LIST COUNTER: A MILLION PLUS

    Why are there so many names on the U.S. government's terrorist list?

    In September 2007, the Inspector General of the Justice Department reported that the Terrorist Screening Center (the FBI-administered organization that consolidates terrorist watch list information in the United States) had over 700,000 names in its database as of April 2007 - and that the list was growing by an average of over 20,000 records per month.1 (See also this new March 2008 report.2 )

    By those numbers, the list now has over one million names on it. Terrorist watch lists must be tightly focused on true terrorists who pose a genuine threat. Bloated lists are bad because

    they ensnare many innocent travelers as suspected terrorists, and
    because they waste screeners' time and divert their energies from looking for true terrorists.
    https://www.aclu.org/terror-watch-li...r-million-plus
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    and we KNOW that terror watch list is the least bit accurate because.......?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Who is on this "list"..?

    by what criteria?

    and what is the redress?

    Inquiring minds like to know.
    if you saw the List They would have to kill ya



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Does posting on RPF qualify as a terrorist activity?
    I'm not even sure it qualifies as "activity".
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Does posting on RPF qualify as a terrorist activity?
    Reported.

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    If I am a "terrorist" and I want to buy a gun, I'm getting it on the black market, period - regardless of any "loophole" that might allow me to purchase it "legally."
    (For just one thing, black market sellers will not likely snitch me out for my purchase, while any "legal" sellers will be required to do so by law.)

    IOW: This is just more boogity-boogity bull$#@! (a.k.a. "security theater") that will accomplish absolutely nothing - and is not intended to accomplish anything - except to (1) further demonize and/or curtail gun rights, and (2) impress rubes, dupes and idiots ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    If I am a "terrorist"
    If?
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    Guilty until proven innocent. I think we should trust the government on this one.

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    Who created the "loophole" in the first place?

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    Trump needs to get hit hard for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Trump needs to get hit hard for this.
    All he has to do is sell it as disarming the Muslims and his supporters will deify him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    All he has to do is sell it as disarming the Muslims and his supporters will deify him.
    Let his supporters do that. But if he wants to become president or even the Republican nominee, he needs to grow that support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Let his supporters do that. But if he wants to become president or even the Republican nominee, he needs to grow that support.
    All of the seeds that I've seen so far are rotten or otherwise completely useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Does posting on RPF qualify as a terrorist activity?
    Not Necessarily. not just posting..

    but supporting Ron Paul, Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin was enough to do it.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Secret government lists that extinguish fundamental rights for people on them?

    Oh yeah, great idea.



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