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  1. #151
    While we are talking about how humans are just $#@!s when they band together:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The Old Testament is more about wars and vengence and killing. The New Testament is more about forgiveness.
    Yeah, like good old Revelations. Where God destroys the world and everyone living in it, (except some christians) because gay.



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    Quote Originally Posted by robert68 View Post
    "The Battle of the Frigidus, also called the Battle of the Frigid River, was fought between 5–6 September 394, between the army of the (Christian) Eastern Emperor Theodosius I and the army of Western Roman ruler Eugenius."

    An enormous list of wars or external conflicts fought pre and post Islam during the history of the Christian Eastern Roman Empire (330–1453).
    And Don't forget the 30 years war. the most devastating war in the history of humankind, in terms of deaths per capita. No Muslims in that one. That was all Christian.

    Oh yeah, and Muslims weren't the ones breaking treaties with the natives as they marched to purge America of all those damn red pagans.

    It's always amazing to me Christians are always the most zealous anti-muslims, when Christians are the most like them.

    Stupid religions.

  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Japan is massively $#@!ed up now as it had the emasculation of its culture banned in its Constitution. Basically all traditional expressions of masculinity in their culture are gone, leaving their menfolk to get really $#@!ing twisted and weird. That's not really 'fixing'.
    if being emasculated means not committing another Rape of Nanking, then maybe thats a good thing for them.
    If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    And Don't forget the 30 years war. the most devastating war in the history of humankind, in terms of deaths per capita. No Muslims in that one. That was all Christian.

    Oh yeah, and Muslims weren't the ones breaking treaties with the natives as they marched to purge America of all those damn red pagans.

    It's always amazing to me Christians are always the most zealous anti-muslims, when Christians are the most like them.

    Stupid religions.
    if this is a competition to see who causes the most devastation, we all win.
    If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Japan is massively $#@!ed up now as it had the emasculation of its culture banned in its Constitution. Basically all traditional expressions of masculinity in their culture are gone, leaving their menfolk to get really $#@!ing twisted and weird. That's not really 'fixing'.
    Is this what you meant to type?


    emasculate
    verb emas·cu·late \i-ˈmas-kyə-ˌlāt\
    : to make (a man) feel less masculine : to deprive (a man) of his male strength, role, etc.

    : to make (something) weaker or less effective

  9. #157
    Islam is not compatible with liberal tolerant societies and in the West their numbers should be kept small. I fear for the future of Europe. That crazy woman in Germany will be defeated in the next election cycle. It's sickening to be driving near the University of Texas campus and see a woman dressed in full burka in August standing behind her husband who's wearing t-shirt, shorts and sandals. It is a misogynist cult.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by William R View Post
    Islam is not compatible with liberal tolerant societies and in the West their numbers should be kept small. I fear for the future of Europe. That crazy woman in Germany will be defeated in the next election cycle. It's sickening to be driving near the University of Texas campus and see a woman dressed in full burka in August standing behind her husband who's wearing t-shirt, shorts and sandals. It is a misogynist cult.
    Do "liberal tolerant societies"

    like the Texas Theocratic Republic , try their darndest to abolish abortions?

    Do they use the police departments to systematically ethnic cleanse society ?

    Do they demand to support a Zionist state in the middle east?

    Do they insist in intervening in the internal affairs of other nations?

    Inquiring minds want to know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    like the Texas Theocratic Republic , try their darndest to abolish abortions?
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    Don't even (most) liberals pretend that they want abortion to be as rare as possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Yeah, like good old Revelations. Where God destroys the world and everyone living in it, (except some christians) because gay.
    God is gay?

    "Christians" in Sodom and Gomorah were not spared- all were killed- innocent and guilty alike. Lot himself had sex and kids with his own daughters who tricked him into it.

    14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry[a] his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the Lord is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

    15 With the coming of dawn, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.”

    16 When he hesitated, the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the Lord was merciful to them. 17 As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, “Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”

    18 But Lot said to them, “No, my lords,[b] please! 19 Your[c] servant has found favor in your[d] eyes, and you[e] have shown great kindness to me in sparing my life. But I can’t flee to the mountains; this disaster will overtake me, and I’ll die. 20 Look, here is a town near enough to run to, and it is small. Let me flee to it—it is very small, isn’t it? Then my life will be spared.”

    21 He said to him, “Very well, I will grant this request too; I will not overthrow the town you speak of. 22 But flee there quickly, because I cannot do anything until you reach it.” (That is why the town was called Zoar.[f])

    23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

    27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.

    29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.

    Lot and His Daughters
    30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

    33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

    34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.


    36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19

    Incest must be OK.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-27-2015 at 02:00 PM.



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  14. #161
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  15. #162
    So, thoughtomator- if you disagree with me why don't you have the balls to discuss it instead of the neg reps.

    My personal opinion is only the brainless that love to argue hand out all the neg reps.

    And, BTW- I am NOT a progressive- some edumacation on Islam/world politics/jihad would do you good.
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  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the Qu'ran - like all religious texts - are open to wide ranging opinions. There is always someone like you to come around claiming to have the one true interpretation.
    Never said it was the "one true interpretation" but that is what it was understood to mean to most Muslims until the radicals came into being.
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  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Muslims were used by the government and the media in the 80's as anti-communist heroes to promote a war against the Russians:
    A war against the Russians? As I recall, it was the Russians trying to take over Afghanistan.
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    and, BTW- I am NOT a progressive
    Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.
    Says the neo-nazi who neg reps me once again because all you can do is spew.

    BTW- I am a libertarian. I happen to have no prejudice against people for their skin/religion/creed etc. And I also happen to actually READ things like the Bible, the Torah, the Qu'ran, the Bhagavad Gita- try it you might learn something.
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  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    A war against the Russians? As I recall, it was the Russians trying to take over Afghanistan.
    The Brzezinski Interview with Le Nouvel Observateur (1998):
    Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahiddin began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on December 24, 1979. But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention [emphasis added throughout].
    ...
    B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?



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  23. #169
    Interesting. Always the same story...
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    If anyone mentions the Saudis, it will have to be redacted...sorry.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  25. #171
    I know nothing of Islamic theology, never read any of the Koran, but I know a little about the actual history of Islamic societies.

    For most of their history, they tolerated other Abrahamaic religions (and also some non-Abrahmaic religions) about as well as Christians tolerated Jews in medieval Europe, which is to say pretty well. They had to pay a special tax, they were required to practice their religion in private, couldn't proselytize amongst Muslims, sometimes had to wear a special mark or live in certain areas of a city, didn't have certain political rights, etc. Far from ideal, of course, but even further from the popular image of Muslims mercilessly slaughtering all non-Muslims.

    I was recently reading about the Islamic view of economics; here too there's quite a remarkable similarity with medieval Catholicism. The mainstream of Islamic economic thought, from the beginning to the present, appears to be modestly interventionist (using Mises' spectrum: liberalism <--> interventionism <--> socialism). That is, basically free market, respecting property rights, but with a few quixotic exceptions: no lending at interest (though in practice they got around this through various loopholes, just like the Catholic Europeans did, as they recognized the practical necessity of credit markets), no absentee land ownership (no counterpart to this in Catholic thought, AFAIK), something like Catholic just price theory (which basically amounts to a requirement for all parties to be adequately informed), no gambling, special luxury taxes, etc.

    The organ-eaters in Syria, and others of the same bent, are truly an aberration from the norm. Crisis tends to breed radicalism, in all societies. When times are good, and you have a lot to lose, you don't want to do anything too wild and crazy. When you feel like you have nothing to lose, you take more chances. A non-religious example: absent the massive destruction of WWI and the resulting chaos, Germans would have never hitched their wagon to so radical a movement as National Socialism. It's the same with the Islamic world (esp. the ME); chaos has bred radicalism. When/if things settle down over there politically, I expect reversion to the decidedly un-terrifying mean.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 11-29-2015 at 12:01 AM.

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post

    Stupid religions.
    Religion is used..and the people manipulated by it..

    in every case it is one empire clashing with another.. Religion is a tool,,

    it is not the cause.
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  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Do "liberal tolerant societies"

    like the Texas Theocratic Republic , try their darndest to abolish abortions?

    Do they use the police departments to systematically ethnic cleanse society ?

    Do they demand to support a Zionist state in the middle east?

    Do they insist in intervening in the internal affairs of other nations?

    Inquiring minds want to know.


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    You're a clown and a punk!! They haven't abolished abortion. They're not ethnically cleansing anyone. No one demands support for Israel. You belong at Democrat Underground.

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    A war against the Russians? As I recall, it was the Russians trying to take over Afghanistan.
    It wasn't just a war, it was a global Islamic Jihad against Russian infidels waged by Afghan/Arab/foreign fighters supported by US Christians. Reagan's leadership skills played a major part in bringing together and arming Afghan Islamic Jihadists that defeated Russians, a quality that is utterly lacking in today's "Reagan Republicans" and Obama is sort of taking the lead.

  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by William R View Post
    You're a clown and a punk!! They haven't abolished abortion. They're not ethnically cleansing anyone. No one demands support for Israel. You belong at Democrat Underground.
    YOU ARE A STATE SUPREMACIST AND , OF COURSE, A DUMB ASS. You belong in the AMerican Neonazi Forum.


    YOU DID NOT, AND COULD NOT REFUTE OR REBUT MY POST.

    - There is no need for Texas to interfere with reproduction rights in any way shape or form

    2- Police departments are sytematically shooting/killing afro-americans

    3- The US has provided the zionist state over $130 BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBillion dollars since 1949

    4- The scumbags inside the DC beltway interefers in the internal affais of every nation on the globe


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  30. #176
    There are multiple wars on multipe fronts. Right now, focus is being directed toward Islam and Muslim and brown people in general.

    What that really means is pay much closer attention to the other wars, which is on Freedom, and more importantly, the ability to defend Freedom for all of humanity.
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  32. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    - There is no need for Texas to interfere with reproduction rights in any way shape or form
    Who is interfering with your reproductive rights? No one. However, you do have the responsibility for your actions. If you create a baby in the act that has been known since the dawn of time to do just that, you have the responsibility to let it be born. So, while you have the right to reproduce your little heart out, you do not have the right to murder another human being.
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  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    It wasn't just a war, it was a global Islamic Jihad against Russian infidels waged by Afghan/Arab/foreign fighters supported by US Christians. Reagan's leadership skills played a major part in bringing together and arming Afghan Islamic Jihadists that defeated Russians, a quality that is utterly lacking in today's "Reagan Republicans" and Obama is sort of taking the lead.
    One of those people you are applauding was Osama bin Laden.
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  34. #179
    Was Osama Bin Laden supported by Reagan/US Christian evangelicals? Do you have any news link stating that?

    It wasn't just a war, it was a global Islamic Jihad against Russian infidels waged by Afghan/Arab/foreign fighters supported by US Christians
    I was appluading leadership skills of President Reagan in bringing various global Islamic Jihad factions/US Evangelicals together against Russian infidels.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    YOU ARE A STATE SUPREMACIST AND , OF COURSE, A DUMB ASS. You belong in the AMerican Neonazi Forum.


    YOU DID NOT, AND COULD NOT REFUTE OR REBUT MY POST.

    - There is no need for Texas to interfere with reproduction rights in any way shape or form

    2- Police departments are sytematically shooting/killing afro-americans

    3- The US has provided the zionist state over $130 BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBillion dollars since 1949

    4- The scumbags inside the DC beltway interefers in the internal affais of every nation on the globe
    Hilarious. I"m a state supremacist??

    Being Pro-Life Is Necessary to Defend Liberty

    http://www.libertariansforlife.org/l.../bepro-rp.html

    No police departments are not going out of there way to kill blacks. Pure fiction

    But you were talking about Texas and zionism.

    Look, you're a dumb kid. End of story

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