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    Who Should Pay For the Syrian Refugees?

    Who Should Pay For the Syrian Refugees?
    Written by Ron Paul - Monday November 23, 2015

    Last week the US House dealt a blow to President Obama’s plan to resettle 10,000 Syrians fleeing their war-torn homeland. On a vote of 289-137, including 47 Democrats, the House voted to require the FBI to closely vet any applicant from Syria and to guarantee that none of them pose a threat to the US. Effectively this will shut down the program.

    The House legislation was brought to the Floor after last week’s attacks in Paris that left more than 120 people dead, and for which ISIS claimed responsibility. With the year-long US bombing campaign against ISIS in Syria and Iraq, there is a good deal of concern that among those 10,000 to be settled here there might be some who wish to do us harm. Even though it looks as though the Paris attackers were all EU citizens, polling in the US shows record opposition to allowing Syrian refugees entry.

    I agree that we must be very careful about who is permitted to enter the United States, but I object to the president’s plan for a very different reason. I think it is a sign of Washington’s moral and intellectual bankruptcy that US citizens are being forced to pay for those fleeing Washington’s foreign policy.

    For the past ten years the US government has been planning and executing a regime change operation against the Syrian government. It is this policy that has produced the chaos in Syria, including the rise of ISIS and al-Qaeda in the country. After a decade of US destabilization efforts, we are now told that Syria is totally destabilized and we therefore must take in thousands of Syrians fleeing the destabilization that Washington caused.

    Has there ever been a more foolish and wrong-headed foreign policy than this?

    The American people have been forced to pay untold millions for a ten-year CIA and Pentagon program to undermine and overthrow the Syrian government, and now we are supposed to pay millions more to provide welfare for the refugees Obama created.

    Who should pay for the millions fleeing the chaos that Washington helped create? How about the military-industrial complex, which makes a killing promoting killing? How about the Beltway neocon think-tanks that continue to churn out pro-war propaganda while receiving huge grants from defense contractors? How about President Obama’s national security advisors, who push him into one regime change disaster after another? How about Hillary Clinton, who came up with the bright idea that “Assad must go”? How about President Obama himself, a president elected to end wars, but who has ended up starting more wars than his predecessor? It’s time those who start the wars start paying for the disasters they create. Then perhaps we might have some relief from an interventionist foreign policy that is destroying our financial and national security.

    If Obama wants to take in refugees from the chaos in Syria, there are probably plenty of vacant rooms in the White House.

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    As Stefan Molyneux pointed out, it costs about $24k/year to take care of the refugees here in the US or in most western European countries while it only costs about $1,400/year to take care of them in Middle Eastern countries.

    That doesn't include relocation costs, which are over $10k/refugee.

    It doesn't make any economic rational sense to bring them here..

    Should be paid for voluntarily, but if they are going to force taxpayers to pay for it then it should be done with the greatest cost effectiveness.
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    I agree that we must be very careful about who is permitted to enter the United States, but I object to the president’s plan for a very different reason. I think it is a sign of Washington’s moral and intellectual bankruptcy that US citizens are being forced to pay for those fleeing Washington’s foreign policy.
    Good to know that Ron is approaching this issue from the exact angle that I have, even as most everyone else seems more interested in blabbering on about red herrings that completely miss this core point.
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    With all of this refugee talk, how do I sign up so that the US Gov. will relocate me (on the tax payer's tab) to a nice warm beech so I can sip margaritas during these cold winter months and then relocate me back home during spring, summer, and fall?



    ...come to think about it, if the NSA is reading this, I might want to rethink that or else I'll be permanently relocated to the nice sunny beeches of Guantanamo Bay.

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    They should pay for themselves (including Bible study lessons) if they're going to be let into the USA.

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    Trump will make Mexico pay for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Trump will make Mexico pay for them.
    I think they should pay for the wall AND take them themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I think they should pay for the wall AND take them themselves.
    America is tired of being taken advantage of!
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Trump will make Mexico pay for them.
    The most effective wall has zero material cost.

    How?

    Find an illegal kill them, strip them down to the bone, pile bones along the border.

    No more illegal immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    The most effective wall has zero material cost.

    How?

    Find an illegal kill them, strip them down to the bone, pile bones along the border.

    No more illegal immigration.
    I'm trying to decide if this would be more in line with our actual character than our current policy.

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    I volunteer the sheeple to pay. They won't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    I'm trying to decide if this would be more in line with our actual character than our current policy.

    Shouldn't you be sleeping?

    I sleep when I'm tired, and wake when I can't sleep anymore.

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    Hmmm... I wonder what D'ohbama is planning with the refugee situation! Creating safe zones for them could be a good idea but I liked the idea of this Egyptian billionaire that offered to pay Italy or Greece for one of their islands, bring all the people and create a new country. What would Rand or Ron do about the refugees trying to come into our country?



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