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I'm sure they polled Independents. There isn't going to be a mad rush of youth either. I'm willing to predict about 15% maybe 18% tops of 17-29 year olds very similar to 2012.Originally Posted by groverblue
Some of you don't know the playing field. It takes OLD votes to win.
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
He could take Trump out with the news and buzz of him rising in Iowa setting the tone nationally. Remember, only 50% of DT 25% voters will definitely vote for him. Meaning, his base is only 12.5% and you can't win with such after you FALL. Plenty of time for Rand to rise with well over 2 months to go. Anything, I mean anything can happen until Feb...
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
41% favorable, 44% unfavorable. Trump has much better numbers. How the hell does this happen? Really unbelievable
I think only national polls count. Anyone know?
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
True, but Rand is targeting 10k college kids to caucus for him in Iowa. That could be a 8% bump over what he gets with the general population.
Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.
There's another thread in this forum with a lot more detail. In short, Rand currently does not qualify. Needs 3.5% nationally or 4% in IA or NH.
Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.
Not for this one. Certain Iowa, NH polls can count, too.
Over 2 months to go and anything can happen. Just a few weeks ago, many thought Carson had a shot...not so any more. Carson is losing support fast in Iowa and isn't polling that well in NH either.
This race is starting to see some movers and shakers. Too early for Rand to rise or anyone for that fact or you could fall as fast as you rose, minus that loud mouth Trump. But just wait until the anti Trump TV commercials come ha ha.
Stay tune...
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
Rand is in the ironic position of getting his highest preference points from the mod/libs while also getting the lowest favorables from the same group.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ve-been-posted
If Rand gets 10,000 kids to caucus for him on Feb, 1, that is a third of what he needs to win. Anyone who gets 30,000 caucus voters or close to that will win the Iowa Caucus.
On second thought, if there are still enough candidates running by Feb, 1, even 25,000 might be enough to win it.
Last edited by LatinsforPaul; 11-24-2015 at 03:18 PM.
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Do you know what kids do during Christmas vacation?
They go home and hopefully encourage their parents to caucus for Rand.
The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.
I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.
Yes hopefully, but they will all be back in Iowa by Feb. 1 when the Caucus starts.
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Kids?! If you are of a voting age, you are an adult not a kid.
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I'm guessing Cruz will pass Trump in Iowa soon enough.
Absolutely correct, that's just the old man in me.
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Did the media bring down any candidates this election cycle yet? Walker and Jindal ran out of money, People still like Carson but the media was not able to take him apart, his drop in polling is for other reasons.
Will the media be able to take out Cruz? Carson's gaffes were pretty bad but none of them stuck.
What a weird election cycle, though I do hope Trump and Cruz clash. Rand is the next strong conservative and if its between Trump, Rubio, and Rand at the top then he will get all of the alternative votes and even some establishment support.
Anything can happen, still two more months before Iowa.
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I'm calling it Romney-itus.
Romney-itus: The fear of allowing a flaw lower your expectations of a candidate that is perceived to be likable, for the sake of not having to settle for another Romney.
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Rand spent the better part of a year running as a "Detroit" Republican and alienating himself from the GOP base. Frankly, we should be happy that his favorables are as high as they are. There is a lot of self inflicted damage Rand needs to overcome and if he actually accomplishes that and becomes a true threat he's going to have to face the same loaded deck and dirty tricks from the Establishment and MSM players that plagued his father's campaign. As a Liberty Candidate, you really have to run a perfect campaign to have any shot.
Yeah, that's what I've thought might happen the whole time.
Trump seems like the kinda guy that doesn't want to be seen as losing when the voting actually starts, especially after being a frontrunner for so long.
I think one thing that's affecting the rise/fall cycle this time is that in 2011/2012 there were already 11 debates so far at this point. Starting in September there was a debate every week or two.
If there had been 11 debates so far this year the numbers would not look the way they do now.
That volume and frequency helps push things along and gives front runners that many more opportunities to screw up, be exposed or just have people get tired of them.
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This explains a lot...from the poll analysis published:
The economy and jobs are the most important issues in deciding who they will support, 24 percent of GOP caucus-goers say, with 15 percent each for terrorism and foreign policy, 11 percent for the federal deficit and 10 percent for immigration.
I think he is already there, from the threat perspective. Amazing amount of tactics being deployed to shut him up and shut him down.
2012 GOP nominee Rick Santorum can tell you how definitive and consequential the Iowa caucuses are. Shouldn't surprise anyone that Cruz, with his religious views, would surge in Iowa.
I think over the next two months we might see a backlash against the National Security conservatives. Whenever a terroristic event happens, the urge to break stuff is always strongest in the next 5 days. It subsides after this. I was having lunch today with 2 lawyer friends, one is an evangelical Baptist Id say, and when the news re Turkey shooting down the Russian plane was discussed, we all said at the same exact time we need to stay the hell away from Syria. I was really happy in that moment.
The worst thing a candidate can do is appear too hawkish. Remember, GWB was going to avoid nation building. He was a stealth candidate. Goldwater lost cause of the daisy ad, or, at least that was the coup de grace. And the most unpopular guy in the party is lindsay graham, you know, a cartoon character.
Against these people, if Paul can continue to speak like a foreign policy realist (can the title non-interventionist if you arent running didactically) if he can speak as mature, analytical, prudent person, he will stand above. At some point, what you say will matter.
LOL, the Establishment hasn't even taken note of him yet. In the unlikely event he breaks 10% in the polls you will begin to see what tactics and dirty tricks really are.
I like how he was the first person to have attack ads against him, they were put out the day he announced by the establishment, and people act like he hasn't had to fight the establishment.
I agree that a degree or more is worth more than 8 percent more likely to support war.
Possible , Cruz is the new Huckaby .Rand needs to stay even with that in Iowa.
Cruz is dangerous, he's going to be a lot harder to dislodge than Carson. Not sure what the establishment will do if given that choice, maybe that Draft Romney movement will finally take off lol
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