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War and disease epidemics are two instances when I think it might be prudent to screen incoming visitors and refugees.
I think that Rand deserves the benefit of the doubt here in that he likely knows a lot more about what's happening than we do.
Believe me, I get where you are coming from, but if someone did ask him to clarify you wouldn't like the answer. I'm planning to plug my ears, pay no attention to what he says, vote for him, and hope he was lying. If he wasn't lying, and he wins, then he got me. Whatever. I won't donate any money to spread the message of monitoring refugees or maintaining military spending or any of the things he says that do nothing but keep Boobus in a slumber. But I'll swallow my vomit and vote for him.
Ron Paul stood against violating the fourth amendment and patriot act provisions, Rand Paul has too, the difference Rand has described himself as a conservative realist in order to resonate better with public sentiment instead of a libertarian idealist. Rand has said ISIS/Radical ISLAM is a threat to our national security and he is going with public sentiment and not the obama administration.
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Last edited by Yieu; 11-26-2015 at 01:41 AM.
There's nothing valuable about this thread at all. Any thread on Rand Paul Forums that starts out with "I am considering withdrawing my support of his candidacy." should be stricken automatically. It's one thing to ask for policy positions, but anyone making such a statement as the Op is obviously trolling.
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You are absolutely wrong thanks for playing, society sucks, but because it sucks that also means public sentiment decides what is right and what is wrong. If public sentiment says this then you either need to change their minds or get used to it... If public sentiment says that you can marry your cat, then meow you are starting to understand the way the world works.
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Last edited by Yieu; 11-26-2015 at 01:42 AM.
Discussion, asking for more info or even questioning Rand's position is part of a healthy discussion. I just have a problem with how this thread was started. For one this isn't part of Rand's official campaign so we only know what Rand or his campaign has said and secondly it just comes off as attention seeking. Why the need to announce/threaten withdrawal of support?
That's not to say that this topic isn't important or anything like that but keep in mind we all have access to the same info (some may be better at finding info so discussions like this can be helpful) and all we can do is interpret what he said or speculate (unless of course there is an insider who decides to speak up), until he or his campaign further explains his position.
So we can't explain exactly what he means because we aren't him and this is a relatively new issue so there is limited information on what his views are. All we can do is speculate or try to interpret what he meant, but of course that won't fulfill your need for an exact explanation.
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I don't support moral relativism or whatever that is. I believe that might is right, I believe that we need the Republican nomination and Rand needs to convince the voters that he will keep them safe. I don't think he is trying to intentionally increase government spying but possibly it's just a tip of a hat large group of voters that he cares about what they want too.
I thought very hard about whether to continue to support Rand Paul, and I decided I'm staying with him for now. The United States does not need another Clinton or Bush or an anti-Muslim demagogue. I'm not sure I'm going to donate much more to Rand, though.
With all this surveillance on both sides, one inevitable outcome will occur. Genocide.
Here is the problem tho, it wont be "Just the Jews" tho, the Jews of this country will start off with the Muslims and will extend to any that are against the actions of the Status Quo, but the exact same thing will happen in the war torn nations of the Middle East and the "Jews" of that region will also start off with Christians and finally extend to any who oppose the Status Quo that exists there.
The REAL target is never the group of people that start off being the ones being persecuted, but the people like we of the Ron Paul Forums that are the true target. We represent the small and tireless minority that poses the biggest threat to the Status Quo.
1776 > 1984
The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.
The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide
Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled
With all the recent buzz about the refugee crisis hitting the USA, with most of the House supporting a pause in the refugee situation, Obama calling for the refugee program to continue its flow and 30+ governors deciding to not receive any refugees, what will be the implications?
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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