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    Rand Paul: It's 'bulls--t' to collect phone records after Paris attacks

    Washington (CNN)Rand Paul says it's "bulls--t" to argue that U.S. government surveillance needs to be ramped up as a result of the Paris attacks.

    At a campaign event at George Washington University, the Kentucky senator told the crowd that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone record data hasn't been stopped, despite a judge's order, due to a six-month window to end the program.

    "So when they stand up on television and say the tragedy in Paris means you have to give up your liberty, we need more phone surveillance -- bulls--t!" Paul said.
    Paul's libertarian leanings have been at the center of his bid for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. He has opposed U.S. intervention in the Middle East as well as government surveillance programs.

    He also has called for a stoppage to the visa waiver program allowing European citizens to travel to the U.S. freely, saying we should only allow Global Entry travelers, who get a background check, to enter freely.

    He reiterated that position Thursday to CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

    "When a whole section of the world is saying they want to come here and attack us ... we have to be careful," Paul said. "It's hard to tell friend from foe."
    Give em salty language hell Rand! Video at link.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/politi...nce/index.html
    Last edited by carlton; 11-19-2015 at 02:13 PM.



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    LOL. Well if you aren't going to win playing nice you might as well take the gloves off.
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    I can't get the video to play. Anyone got a Youtube version?
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    Trump gets praised for his language and stupid attacks. Rand will be blasted for this I'm sure.

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    Speaking to a packed room of young supporters on Thursday, Rand Paul said it was “bull$#@!” to believe that the U.S. government must broaden its surveillance powers in the wake of the Paris attacks.

    Paul has been a leading critic of the National Security Agency’s metadata collection program that collects phone and other records of Americans en masse.

    Speaking to about 600 students, and turning away more due to maximum capacity, at George Washington University in Washington, DC, the senator and 2016 Republican presidential candidate said “So when they stand up on television and say the tragedy in Paris means you have to give up your liberty, we need more phone surveillance — bull$#@!!”

    Many have speculated that Republicans hawks running for president now have an advantage over the libertarian-leaning Paul after the recent terrorist attacks.
    On Tuesday, Senator Marco Rubio said “At least two of my colleagues in the Senate aspiring to the presidency… have voted to weaken the U.S. intelligence programs,” referring to Paul and Senator Ted Cruz’s anti-NSA mass collection positions.

    “I think we need to restore the metadata program, which was part of the Patriot Act,” said Jeb Bush on Monday, during an appearance on MSNBC’s Morning Joe.
    Paul told the mostly student crowd on Thursday, “There is a danger in this war on terrorism — and make no mistake, we do have to defend ourselves — that we give up the very liberty that separates us from them.”

    “What separates a civilized people from barbarians?” Paul asked. “It’s believing in the individual, believing in privacy and believing in a government that leaves us alone.”

    “Anybody here just want to be left alone?” Paul asked the crowd.

    http://rare.us/story/rand-paul-calls...xuur5ZtIIkP.99
    Rand is coming on strong these past two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groverblue View Post
    I can't get the video to play. Anyone got a Youtube version?
    Rand Paul for Peace

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    It's how you get airtime...why do you think Trump always gets the headlines. He probably has a new marketing director on his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Trump gets praised for his language and stupid attacks. Rand will be blasted for this I'm sure.
    Yup.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinsforPaul View Post
    Lol! Tell like it is, Rand!
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    $#@! it just go nuclear. Give the voters what they want. Attack attack attack but don't be fake like all the others.

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    Rand needs to stop using harsh language like that, instead of saying mass surveillance is bull$#@! he needs to say mass surveillance is mildly upsetting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty74 View Post
    $#@! it just go nuclear. Give the voters what they want. Attack attack attack but don't be fake like all the others.
    Well maybe not nuclear, but it doesn't hurt if 'they' don't know what to anticipate.

    Couple this with his debate performance and what happened in the senate with Mcconnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Rand needs to stop using harsh language like that, instead of saying mass surveillance is bull$#@! he needs to say mass surveillance is mildly upsetting
    What do you have against mass surveillance?
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    Now see, that, combined with the mocking of the 'free speech zone' is how you do a zinger.

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    "Are we in the free speech zone?"
    lol, nice

    awesome all the way around. good stuff rand

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    Well Rand has the most complete principled truth of all of them and America finally seems to be in the mood for unvarnished truth.Thank youoooo,thank youoooo,marcohhhhhh,marcohhhh - just spit out the truth in a conversational tone.Let it out.



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    They'll just say Rand is too "thin skinned" and not presidential enough to take the pressures of a vigorous campaign trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What do you have against mass surveillance?
    Its not mass enough, or the Paris attacks would have been thwarted
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Rand needs to stop using harsh language like that, instead of saying mass surveillance is bull$#@! he needs to say mass surveillance is mildly upsetting
    And if that's not effective, some strongly worded emails are in order. They'll be read, no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Its not mass enough, or the Paris attacks would have been thwarted
    Surveillance of Catholic Mass would have prevented that? I say include Mosques.
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    Vote for Rand Paul.

    End the Bull$#@!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Vote for Rand Paul.

    End the Bull$#@!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Vote for Rand Paul.

    End the Bull$#@!!



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