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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    Correct. It would be something like what the Nazi's did. Trump is a nationalist, so this is to be expected. And you're implying that's bad? Are we not allowed to do anything the Nazis did?
    Yes, people don't really give the Nazi's a fair shake. They did so many good things but people seem to always only want to talk about the 1 or 2 bad things they did.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Yes, people don't really give the Nazi's a fair shake. They did so many good things but people seem to always only want to talk about the 1 or 2 bad things they did.
    Just think, if they had developed the bomb we would still be in the first century of the glorious Reich.
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  4. #63
    There are very few jobs available here in Los Angeles and 50% of the population is Latino. The city now resembles Tijuana, it's turned into a giant dump. I have no problem with deporting them, but first they should pay a huge fine before we send them packing.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by RandPaul4Prez View Post
    There are very few jobs available here in Los Angeles and 50% of the population is Latino. The city now resembles Tijuana, it's turned into a giant dump. I have no problem with deporting them, but first they should pay a huge fine before we send them packing.
    My small town is over run with beaners. I have no problem finding work now that I have learned not to depend on others to provide it for me. (thanks beaners for steering me in the right direction) But I really have a issue with all the young and old white guys begging on every intersection.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    The problem is not so much the people already here, but the message that letting those already here stay sends to the rest of the world. Just look at what is happening in Europe. The numbers of third world riff raft that wants to come here over the next few decades isn't in the millions- is is billions. Countries like Sweden have already passed the point of no return and will cease to exist within our lifetimes.
    I have no problem with limiting immigration, especially from hostile countries.


    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Actually, if the messicans were smart they'd stay off the official papers and just keep on doing what they're doing. All that you suggested they do is simply legally enslaving themselves to the bankers.
    That's true. But if the feds and bankers are going to steal from me, the mexicans have to be robbed as well.

    o debo cambiar mi nombre a Jose, rasgar mis papeles y no hablan Ingles

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    My beliefs are a little tougher on immigration than Rand but I am actually closer to Rand's positions than you and the other open border clowns here.
    The day Rand purposes a massive police force to evict people is the day I quit supporting him. It is one thing to be against open borders and entirely another to be insanely nationalist and bigoted. So how much would it take for you to support extermination camps once massive deportation of the Mexicans failed and they came back over? Would it just take one well publicized violent fight with the police where some police died for you to go along with it? It will fail by the way what is your and Trumps plan B?
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    Correct. It would be something like what the Nazi's did. Trump is a nationalist, so this is to be expected. And you're implying that's bad? Are we not allowed to do anything the Nazis did?
    Of course it's bad.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    The day Rand purposes a massive police force to evict people is the day I quit supporting him. It is one thing to be against open borders and entirely another to be insanely nationalist and bigoted. So how much would it take for you to support extermination camps once massive deportation of the Mexicans failed and they came back over? Would it just take one well publicized violent fight with the police where some police died for you to go along with it? It will fail by the way what is your and Trumps plan B?
    Deporting criminals, not wanting to see illegals slam our social services and drive up our taxes is now bigoted? Where do you get your talking points from MSNBC?

    We already deport hundreds of thousands of illegals a year already, where is this violent fight you speak of? Adding more staff to deport more and sending the criminals back is just enforcing the laws we already have on the books.

    You seem to be on the side of no rule of law vs enforcing Constitutional law. The nation is however solidly on the side of the rule of law, perhaps too far. There might be protests but they would be lucky to be as unpopular with the people as black lives matter.
    Last edited by kahless; 11-12-2015 at 07:56 AM.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Deporting criminals, not want to see illegals slam to slam social services and drive up our taxes is now bigoted? Where do you get your talking points from MSNBC?
    This is about deporting all illegal immigrants, not just the criminal ones.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Deporting criminals, not want to see illegals slam to slam social services and drive up our taxes is now bigoted? Where do you get your talking points from MSNBC?

    We already deport hundreds of thousands of illegals a year already, where is this violent fight you speak of? Adding more staff to deport more and sending the criminals back is just enforcing the laws we already have on the books.

    You seem to be on the side of no rule of law vs enforcing Constitutional law. The nation is however solidly on the side of the rule of law, perhaps too far. There might be protests but they would be lucky to be as unpopular with the people as black lives matter.
    When you post polls about the voting habits and beliefs of LEGAL Hispanics to prove your point it, proves it is Hispanics in general you hate, NOT just illegals. You have crossed the line from being against open borders to hating as a whole an ethnic group.
    Last edited by klamath; 11-12-2015 at 08:14 AM.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    This is about deporting all illegal immigrants, not just the criminal ones.
    Which we have been doing years and this plan is to enforce the law more effectively by adding more agents to deal with the overwhelming number of illegals. The real story here is that we have a movement of people in this forum and in this country that want the government to stop enforcing the law and rather demand open borders.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    This is about deporting all illegal immigrants, not just the criminal ones.
    I am sure what she means is crossing a border to find a better life against the law is the same criminality as murder and rape.
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  16. #73
    If we secured our border which will take more than just a physical barrier but an overhaul of our VISA system and who we legally allow in to begin with, any you do is pointless if they just come back. Mexico should be responsible for its citizens, they can willingly cooperate or be coerced. Just enforce the law, get rid of jus soli, no amnesty, and the rest will take care of itself in due time. Nobody has a problem deporting criminals right? Personally I'd offer half the amount it costs or whatever to deport thru the courts to just pay them to return to their home country, reentry after that would result in criminal charges. It can be done and I believe it can be done humanely over the course of time. Ending the Drug War will help Mexico a lot, the corrupt Mexican state needs to handled roughly as they 100% are taking advantage of us.
    Last edited by jkob; 11-12-2015 at 08:05 AM.

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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Which we have been doing years and this plan is to enforce the law more effectively by adding more agents to deal with the overwhelming number of illegals. The real story here is that we have a movement of people in this forum and in this country that want the government to stop enforcing the law and rather demand open borders.
    Then what was your point in asking klamath if deporting criminals is bad, if you acknowledge that this isn't just about deporting criminals?

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    When you post polls about the voting habits and belief of LEGAL Hispanics to prove your point it proves it is Hispanic in general you hate NOT just illegals. You have crossed the line from being against open borders to hating as a whole an ethnic group.
    So now Pew Research is a bigoted organization. Posting the data proves the point that allowing so many to immigrate here has not only changed our country demographically but will change our form of government.

    btw - I love many Hispanic people that are my friends and relatives. I also live among them as a minority in a Hispanic community. I am not too pleased about the tax burden and discrimination I have received by being forced to be a minority in my own community. A community that used to be 95% white english speaking community. Saying I hate all Hispanics is a ridiculous leap to make.
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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    So now Pew Research is a bigoted organization. Posting the data proves the point that allowing so many to immigrate here has not only changed our country demographically but will change our form of government.

    btw - I love many Hispanic people that are my friends and relatives. I also live among them as a minority in a Hispanic community. I am not too pleased about the tax burden and discrimination I have received by being forced to be a minority in my own community. A community that used to be 95% white english speaking community. Saying I hate all Hispanics is a ridiculous leap to make.
    Posting a poll of the beliefs of an ethnic group as evidence that we must get rid of that ethnic group is sure proof you dislike that particular group.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Then what was your point in asking klamath if deporting criminals is bad, if you acknowledge that this isn't just about deporting criminals?
    I never denied this is about deporting ALL illegals as opposed to the few of you here that do not want to deport anyone. To hell with the tax burden, the criminals and the few hundred thousand we already deport. Open the borders and stop enforcing the law seems to be want you and Klamath are in favor of.
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    * Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Posting a poll of the beliefs of an ethnic group as evidence that we must get rid of that ethnic group is sure proof you dislike that particular group.
    I never said that, that sounds like anti-racist paranoia as part of your Progressive conditioning.

    Deport those that immigrate here illegally since they support big government and are a tax burden.
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  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I never denied this is about deporting ALL illegals as opposed to the few of you here that do not want to deport anyone. To hell with the tax burden, the criminals and the few hundred thousand we already deport. Open the borders and stop enforcing the law seems to be want you and Klamath are in favor of.
    I still don't get what your point in mentioning criminals was then.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I never said that, that sounds like anti-racist paranoia as part of your Progressive conditioning.

    Deport those that immigrate here illegally since they support big government and are a tax burden.
    So you only want to deport the ones who support big government and are a tax burden?

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Posting a poll of the beliefs of an ethnic group as evidence that we must get rid of that ethnic group is sure proof you dislike that particular group.
    I dislike government, if I find a poll where others agree with me would it be okay to abolish it?

    Or does this only work if one assigns such labels as "Mexican" or "Asian"?

    I'll assign government hangers on a label; "Tax-Ticks", they come in all colors and various suits of attire but to a one they're all blood suckers.

    I don't care where a man or woman comes from, what I care about is whether or not they want to kill or grow government...

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    So you only want to deport the ones who support big government and are a tax burden?
    What is so hard about understanding that there are people that want our government to enforce the law. If you break the law and do not follow the process you do not get to stay.

    If you are heading the discussion in the direction of limiting certain groups from immigrating here then yes I am for that. I think the Pew poll makes the case we should also limit legal Latino immigration to give them time to assimilate. Over time as taxpayers it may send those poll numbers in a more reasonable direction rather in a direction of permanent Socialist Democrat majorities.
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I never said that, that sounds like anti-racist paranoia as part of your Progressive conditioning.

    Deport those that immigrate here illegally since they support big government and are a tax burden.
    Why not just take it a step farther. Deport ALL people that are for big government? Trump will have to get laws changed to create his police state why not just change the law so someones political beliefs can determine whether they qualify to still be US citizens?
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    What is so hard about understanding that there are people that want our government to enforce the law. If you break the law and do not follow the process you do not get to stay.
    So you don't just want to deport anyone who crossed the border illegally or overstayed a visa. You want to deport everyone who has ever broken any law?

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    So you don't just want to deport anyone who crossed the border illegally or overstayed a visa. You want to deport everyone who has ever broken any law?
    People that intentionally break the law and run red lights are actually more of a danger than the average immigrant. Deport em!
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

  31. #87
    I'll bet "The Donald" will no difficulties in finding millions of volunteers for the roundups.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    What is so hard about understanding that there are people that want our government to enforce the law. If you break the law and do not follow the process you do not get to stay.
    These people are the problem.

    It'd take 25 government employees for every person, legal or illegal, to keep abreast of the laws and another 25 to enforce the damn things.

    I can't afford to carry 1 government employee what with their salary, benefits and pension......

    I'm betting that 99% of those screaming for enforced laws can't afford to support one either.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    These people are the problem.

    It'd take 25 government employees for every person, legal or illegal, to keep abreast of the laws and another 25 to enforce the damn things.

    I can't afford to carry 1 government employee what with their salary, benefits and pension......

    I'm betting that 99% of those screaming for enforced laws can't afford to support one either.
    So in other words you are for getting rid of ICE and have complete open borders, just like the erowe1 and Klamath?
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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by RandPaul4Prez View Post
    There are very few jobs available here in Los Angeles and 50% of the population is Latino. The city now resembles Tijuana, it's turned into a giant dump. I have no problem with deporting them, but first they should pay a huge fine before we send them packing.
    If there are few jobs now there will be even fewer after you deport people.

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