Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property

[AmericanSpartan]

It strikes me that the most accurate measure of welfare usage would include the dollar amount of welfare usage. In fact, I'd go as far as to say the most accurate measure would be defined by the dollar value.


What does that mean? In a household of five people, does it mean that there are 50 people months (out of 60 people months) of welfare usage per year, or does it mean that there are 10 people months (out of 60 people months) of welfare usage per year. And, sorry to be dense, but what would a people month on welfare translate to in dollars; or is it even translatable?

This was less than three minutes into the video. Molyneux certainly hasn't made a compelling case for me to wade through the remain 20 or 30 minutes. Does anyone have a transcript they can point me to, which I can skim to see if there's anything more compelling that what I endured up to the three or four minute mark. The man just isn't that captivating a speaker.

So you do not want to take the chance that you might learn something? Wow.

[AmericanSpartan]

Caucasians didn't exactly improve things for the Native Americans either. Should have stopped that migration and kept them over in Europe.

History is full of migrations. People constantly on the move. You can't stop it.

They did not have the means or weapons for doing so, we do.

No we can stop it, you fail to understand that. We have the means, we have the will, and very, very soon we will have the leaders in position who have the will to act.

[danda]

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

Not really and can you blame us. We are not big on sharing.

[danda]

So did the soviets. That berlin wall sure turned out great. not.

They did not have the means or weapons for doing so, we do.

No we can stop it, you fail to understand that. We have the means, we have the will, and very, very soon we will have the leaders in position who have the will to act.

[AmericanSpartan]

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

So a poem that was added to statue is your reply? Really?

So not what is best for the nation, our economy, winning elections or secure the blessings of Liberty for ourselves and posterity, just "muh feels"?

You really do need to learn some history.

Roberto Suro -- The Statue of Liberty's Real Stand

Immigration Myths (contd.): The Statue of Immigration, or Liberty Inviting the World

Wise up, because Cliches are not plans not wise courses of actions.

[AmericanSpartan]

So did the soviets. That berlin wall sure turned out great. not.

It works in Israel on their borders with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
It works in Saudi Araba on their borders with Iraq and now Yemen.
It works in Spain on their border with Morocco.
It works in India on their borders with Bangladesh and Pakistan.
It works in South Korea on their border with North Korea.
It works in Mexico on their border with Guatemala.
The Nations of Bulgaria, Hungary, and even Greece are building them to secure their borders.
It will work here.

But hey keep on signaling, that is what matters more then Liberty, right?

[AmericanSpartan]

No reply?

[Ronin Truth]

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

What was the US population when we got the statue?

What is the US population now?

I SWAG that we're more than 100+% overfull now.

[thoughtomator]

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

The forerunner of modern progressivism. A very nice, generous and kind-sounding phrase that leaves all the consequences to future generations.

We're full up on tired, poor, huddled masses. Try Saudi Arabia, they've got lots of open space.

[AmericanSpartan]

What was the US population when we got the statue?

What is the US population now?

I SWAG that we're more than 100+% overfull now.

Did we have welfare?

Did we have welfare voters?

Did we have Narco or Islamic Terrorism?

Did we have people that want to change the make up of the nation for political reasons?

Did we have Ebola, ARB, or Suitcase nukes?

No, we did not. The idea that some how a statue and a bad poem are an immigration system is just madness, they can not make a point because one can not be made for mass immigration, so they have to adlib it, which is now failing epicly.

[AmericanSpartan]

The forerunner of modern progressivism. A very nice, generous and kind-sounding phrase that leaves all the consequences to future generations.

We're full up on tired, poor, huddled masses. Try Saudi Arabia, they've got lots of open space.

Thank You. Hell Emma Lazarus was a Socialists for god sakes, who cares what she thinks or says?

[AmericanSpartan]

No reply? I wonder why.

[idiom]

So basically liberty can't out-compete the alternatives in a free market. This is Lews position.

[John117]

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

I have to ask you, why do you place a poem as the high point instead of the well being of the nation, its people and the Liberty we have placed as the keystone of our culture?

[John117]

So basically liberty can't out-compete the alternatives in a free market. This is Lews position.

Lews postion? What is that?

[Ronin Truth]

Did we have welfare?

Did we have welfare voters?

Did we have Narco or Islamic Terrorism?

Did we have people that want to change the make up of the nation for political reasons?

Did we have Ebola, ARB, or Suitcase nukes?

No, we did not. The idea that some how a statue and a bad poem are an immigration system is just madness, they can not make a point because one can not be made for mass immigration, so they have to adlib it, which is now failing epicly.

We had/have an ongoing freemason conspiracy plot. Does that count?

[ProIndividual]

"We can't have open borders, because of the welfare state. See, it's too hard to get rid of an authoritarian policy, so we'll just have to treat its symptoms with more authoritarianism. But we'll rationalize it with claims that sound libertarian, that is until you give them 5 seconds thought. The ethics of libertarianism be damned, muh extortion funds (which are not mine anymore, but the mafia's, err, I mean government's) and muh culture."