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    Trump: "Eminent Domain is a wonderful thing"



    Trump is going to be hurt with this. What a pathetic attempt at trying to defend the theft of ones property.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post


    Trump is going to be hurt with this. What a pathetic attempt at trying to defend the theft of ones property.
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    Maybe he's getting scared that he might actually win the nomination, and he's self-sabotaging.

    Or maybe he's testing just how much non-conservative, non-Republican, and non-Liberty messaging his sheep-like supporters will actually swallow. (So far, it appears that his supporters don't care at all about positions).

    It's like a scientific experiment to see how stupid the 'Murica crowd is, all in all.

    And where is Mr. Sadler to explain to us how Trump's position is a good one??
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    Donald Trump is a rebel. He doesn't stick to the conservative script. No sir, he doesn't take orders from anybody. Not from you, not from Russia, certainly not from the planks of the Republican platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Donald Trump is a rebel. He doesn't stick to the conservative script. No sir, he doesn't take orders from anybody. Not from you, not from Russia, certainly not from the planks of the Republican platform.
    +rep
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    His supporters need help....
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    Of course he would say it's a "wonderful" thing. It's been a wonderful boon to his business on many occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikender View Post
    Of course he would say it's a "wonderful" thing. It's been a wonderful boon to his business on many occasions.
    Dat's whack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Dat's whack.
    Just wait till it gets to wiggity wack levels, then we're in trouble, bruh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikender View Post
    Just wait till it gets to wiggity wack levels, then we're in trouble, bruh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Man for the last time I was just changing my clothes. That freestyle I busted right thar was just one of those story telling raps from a different perspective and such, knowatemsayin'? Around here spreadin' lies about S-P-I with your Hubble Telescope Glasses 70's Porno Moustahce havin' self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikender View Post
    Man for the last time I was just changing my clothes. That freestyle I busted right thar was just one of those story telling raps from a different perspective and such, knowatemsayin'? Around here spreadin' lies about S-P-I with your Hubble Telescope Glasses 70's Porno Moustahce havin' self.
    I'm not judging. Not my style bro, if it happen to you it could happen to me, peace.

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    Donald Trump: Eminent Domain Is A “Wonderful” Thing.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...-indefensible/

    Donald Trump ruffled the feathers of many conservatives Tuesday when he said during a Fox News interview that eminent domain is a “wonderful” thing.

    “What do you think of eminent domain?” host Bret Baier asked.

    “Well, I think eminent domain is wonderful if you are building a highway and you need to build, as an example a highway, and you are going to be blocked by a holdout or, in some cases it’s a holdout, nobody knows this better than I do because I built a lot of buildings in Manhattan and you’ll have 12 sites and you’ll get 11 and you’ll have one holdout and you end up building around them and everything else, so I know better than anybody,” Trump said.

    The billionaire continued, “I think eminent domain for massive projects, for instance you are going to create thousands of jobs and you have somebody who is in the way, and you pay that person far more — don’t forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money. And you need a house in a certain location because you are going to build this massive development that is going to employ thousands of people … I think eminent domain is fine.”

    “It’s called economic development,” the real estate tycoon added.
    the rEVOLution begins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I'm not judging. Not my style bro, if it happen to you it could happen to me, peace.

    That was a bit $#@!ed
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    What a scumbag.

    Imagine a country under his "leadership".

    Is it too late to immigrate?

    -t

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    “It’s called economic development,” the real estate tycoon added.
    Yeah, it's called "theft", $#@!.

    Everyone has their price - you just don't want to pay it. So you turn to the politicians you've paid off to have them steal it for you.
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    This is just one issue. Some will have to decide what is worse, this or Rand opening the H1B flood gates. There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. It is selecting one that would do the least damage it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    This is just one issue. Some will have to decide what is worse, this or Rand opening the H1B flood gates. There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. It is selecting one that would do the least damage it seems.
    Yeah, Trump's support for universal healthcare, and blatent opposition to property rights clearly makes him better than the Paul's.














































    Sarcasm btw.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Yeah, Trump's support for universal healthcare, and blatent opposition to property rights clearly makes him better than the Paul's.
    Trump's plan is repeal and replace with allowing health care competition across state lines. Competition across state lines is what Rand/Ron fought for.
    The difference being Trump publicly supports providing an option for those that cannot afford health insurance.

    If you think Rand would even attempt to repeal healthcare for the poor then you are not living in the real world. Rand plays ball with the establishment and knows if he does not play the game he will get nothing in return. The difference here is Rand will do it on the sly and at the last minute rather than publicly voicing it well in advance like Trump.

    If Rand is POTUS and is successful in legislation that opens up the immigration flood gates, it will only be a matter of time before limited government ideology is relegated to the dustbin of history. All the immigration polls show the overwhelming majority of immigrants demand big government.
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    It won't hurt Trump. Nothing will hurt Trump until the media announces it will hurt Trump. That will not happen until right before voting in IA and after Trump has destroyed any viability the GOP has. Then Jeb will "surge" and win. Trump is trolling all of you, probably to prop up the Clintons. If anything was learned from the last few elections, it's that this $#@! is scripted and gives boobus an illusion of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Trump's plan is repeal and replace with allowing health care competition across state lines. Competition across state lines is what Rand/Ron fought for.
    The difference being Trump publicly supports providing an option for those that cannot afford health insurance.

    If you think Rand would even attempt to repeal healthcare for the poor then you are not living in the real world. Rand plays ball with the establishment and knows if he does not play the game he will get nothing in return. The difference here is Rand will do it on the sly and at the last minute rather than publicly voicing it well in advance like Trump.

    If Rand is POTUS and is successful in legislation that opens up the immigration flood gates, it will only be a matter of time before limited government ideology is relegated to the dustbin of history. All the immigration polls show the overwhelming majority of immigrants demand big government.
    And you keep claiming you aren't promoting trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    This is just one issue. Some will have to decide what is worse, this or Rand opening the H1B flood gates. There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. It is selecting one that would do the least damage it seems.
    and you keep claiming you aren't promoting trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    and you keep claiming you aren't promoting trump.
    I know, right?

    Trump's immigration stance especially funny since Trump says he will let the illegals back in legally.
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    don’t forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money.


    Let's see what some experts think about this.

    http://www.condemnation-law.com/eminent-domain-definition/

    Eminent domain is an unwanted government intrusion into your life that will force you to make decisions about your property and your rights.
    ...
    If the government gives you a ‘low ball’ offer and you want to pursue additional compensation, then you’ll need an eminent domain attorney to guide your through the eminent domain process and help you properly interface with the condemning authority.
    ...
    Don’t be surprised if you’re unable to quantify or assess your damages; no one expects you to be an expert on land valuation in eminent domain cases. In fact, the government is counting on this.
    http://nationalparalegal.edu/public_...nentDomain.asp

    What constitutes “just compensation”?

    Assuming that there is a taking and that the taking is for a public purpose, the only question that remains is how much the government has to pay the property owner to compensate for the taking. The general rule is that “just compensation” means that the government must pay fair market value for the property that was taken. Fair market value is not the same thing as the value that the owner places on the property or the amount that the property is actually worth to the owner.For example:


    1) Bob’s ancestors have lived in his house for four generations and Bob considers his house to be priceless because of its sentimental value. On the open market, Bob’s house would command about $150,000. If the government condemns Bob’s house, they will only have to pay Bob $150,000, regardless of the fact that Bob would not agree to sell his house even for $1,500,000.


    2) Jane’s house is worth $250,000 on the open market. However, Jane runs a business that produces revenue of $500,000 per year. For whatever reason, Jane cannot transfer her business to a different location. Nevertheless, if the government takes the house, its liability will be limited to $250,000.
    http://columbialawreview.org/wp-cont...ian-Angelo.pdf

    Third, it is assumed that an appropriate way to address this problemis by adding fixed-percentage bonuses to the amount of compensationpaid—for example, by requiring payment of compensation equal to 125%, rather than 100%, of the taken property’s fair market value. Severalstates have recently enacted laws requiring such enhanced compensation,9 and prominent academics have endorsed its general adoption.
    So some lawyers argue that the whole idea is bull$#@!, other lawyers argue (like in the columbia link) that current systems are fair because $#@! your sentimental bull$#@!, and the law in the majority of states actually only accommodates "fair market value".

    I haven't even looked into whether "fair market value" is the tax assessment value, because if that's the case, I would be out about $80,000 if it happened to me.

    Even if an eminent domain victim got paid 25% over market value for his home, he'd still be receiving some $36,000 average for the privilege of getting marched out of his property at gunpoint, having to find another place to live, boxing up all his stuff, probably leaving behind any fixtures in the house, not to mention gardens, and all manner of other things that person may have spent years developing.


    But this is all beside the point. None of Trumps supporters give a flying $#@! about eminent domain. In fact, nobody outside libertarian circles gives a $#@! about it. If anyone cared, then the very moment the Kelo decision was announced there would have been a torch-and-pitchfork mob marching straight into DC to burn the SCOTUS building to the ground.
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    The thing for me is, why is this even news to anyone enough to ruffle their feathers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Trump's plan is repeal and replace with allowing health care competition across state lines. Competition across state lines is what Rand/Ron fought for.
    The difference being Trump publicly supports providing an option for those that cannot afford health insurance.

    If you think Rand would even attempt to repeal healthcare for the poor then you are not living in the real world. Rand plays ball with the establishment and knows if he does not play the game he will get nothing in return. The difference here is Rand will do it on the sly and at the last minute rather than publicly voicing it well in advance like Trump.

    If Rand is POTUS and is successful in legislation that opens up the immigration flood gates, it will only be a matter of time before limited government ideology is relegated to the dustbin of history. All the immigration polls show the overwhelming majority of immigrants demand big government.
    So here Trump says eminent domain is a good thing and you are still pimping the man. I think you have the true diagnosis of Trump Derangement syndrome. Not even JJ or Stradler are here trying to give him cover.. Trump is a big government dick and if you don't realize that yet I question what your role is here on these forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    And you keep claiming you aren't promoting trump?
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    and you keep claiming you aren't promoting trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    I know, right?
    Since when is discussing the facts promoting a candidate? I suppose if it was prior to this summer my posts would not be an issue with you lackeys.
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