‘No Borders’ Activist Gang Raped By Migrants

[kahless]

CLAIM: ‘No Borders’ Activist Gang Raped By Migrants, Pressured Into Silence To Not ‘Damage Cause’
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015...-damage-cause/

A young, female ‘No Borders’ activist working in a migrant camp on the France-Italy border remained silent about her gang rape by Sudanese migrants for over a month because “the others asked me to keep quiet.”
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La Stampa reports that the woman, around 30 years of age, would have reported the horrific crime were if not for her fellow left-wing activists, who convinced her that if the truth got out it could damage their utopian dream of a world without borders.

[fisharmor]

So why does this reasoning not work for other topics?

Every single state engages in theft, extortion, murder, intimidation, racketeering.... every one of them. Not one, not a "gang".... all of them.
That they do this is not up for debate. It's a stone cold fact.

How come I don't get to say the states shouldn't exist when all of them are guilty, but you get to say immigration shouldn't exist because only a fraction of a fraction of a handful of them are bad people?

[DevilsAdvocate]

These people are going to enrich Europe so hard

[ProIndividual]

Not sure how her advocacy for a borderless world is logically defeated by her rape by immigrants who don't represent the majority of immigrants with this crime. It's funny how this is presented, but if it were a gun rights advocate shot to death this form of illogical argumentation would be attacked, likely by the same posters who think it somehow shows her to be wrong or getting what she asked for.

[timosman]

Not sure how her advocacy for a borderless world is logically defeated by her rape by immigrants who don't represent the majority of immigrants with this crime. It's funny how this is presented, but if it were a gun rights advocate shot to death this form of illogical argumentation would be attacked, likely by the same posters who think it somehow shows her to be wrong or getting what she asked for.

Bad analogy. Guns do not kill people, people do.

[Acala]

This proves that all immigrants are rapists.

[ProIndividual]

Bad analogy. Guns do not kill people, people do.

And immigration doesn't kill people, people kill people (and the killers happen to be immigrants sometimes).

[Danke]

[William Tell]

Well, I guess all the borders better be left open anyway, at least that way we aren't be rape..... I mean racist.

[timosman]

And immigration doesn't kill people, people kill people (and the killers happen to be immigrants sometimes).

It is time to look closer at the "sometimes" part. Do we have any stats ?

[Acala]

It is time to look closer at the "sometimes" part. Do we have any stats ?

American Indians sometimes commit murder, but I think it is safe to say that the overwhelming majority of murders and rapes in the USA are committed by immigrants and their progeny. Or maybe you don't mean THOSE immigrants?

[fatjohn]

American Indians sometimes commit murder, but I think it is safe to say that the overwhelming majority of murders and rapes in the USA are committed by immigrants and their progeny. Or maybe you don't mean THOSE immigrants?

Let's keep race out of it. The colour of your skin has no effect on your actions. I think we all agree to that.

Now the thoughts in your head however do. These are in large part influenced by what religion you have grown up with and here's the shocker, Islam does not do so great wrt women values.

Rape rate is three times higher than in norway or finland. It has about three times the number of immegrants than norway or denmark. I guess its due to Ikea or smth.

http://nl.gatestoneinstitute.org/577...n-verkrachting

https://www.ssb.no/en/befolkning/art...en-and-denmark

[fatjohn]

A nice show presenting modern day values in a pleasant fashion. Make sure your kids watch it before its time for bed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4

[Acala]

Let's keep race out of it. The colour of your skin has no effect on your actions. I think we all agree to that.

Now the thoughts in your head however do. These are in large part influenced by what religion you have grown up with and here's the shocker, Islam does not do so great wrt women values.

Rape rate is three times higher than in norway or finland. It has about three times the number of immegrants than norway or denmark. I guess its due to Ikea or smth.

http://nl.gatestoneinstitute.org/577...n-verkrachting

https://www.ssb.no/en/befolkning/art...en-and-denmark

Funny how some of the same Repbulicans that used to denigrate women's rights and say things like "lay back and enjoy it" and "you belong in the kitchen" are now great defenders of women, when it justifies racial and religious intolerance.

[Danke]

Funny how some of the same Repbulicans that used to denigrate women's rights and say things like "lay back and enjoy it" and "you belong in the kitchen" are now great defenders of women, when it justifies racial and religious intolerance.

Who are these Republicans you speak of? I'd like to email them and see their side of your story.

[fatjohn]

Funny how some of the same Repbulicans that used to denigrate women's rights and say things like "lay back and enjoy it" and "you belong in the kitchen" are now great defenders of women, when it justifies racial and religious intolerance.

So you are attacking me for being anti-women rights, providing no basis whatsoever, without denouncing that at the very core, islam is women unfriendly? You sure know how to win a debate.

[fatjohn]

A nice show presenting modern day values in a pleasant fashion. Make sure your kids watch it before its time for bed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4

Seriously this is a must watch.

[Acala]

So you are attacking me for being anti-women rights, providing no basis whatsoever, without denouncing that at the very core, islam is women unfriendly? You sure know how to win a debate.

I didn't attack YOU. I said "some of the same Republicans". Which is absolutely true. I don't know if that includes you or not.

By the way, we are not having a debate. You are appealing to emotion and presenting some anecdotal information and nothing more. That's not a debate.

[RJB]

Funny how some of the same Repbulicans that used to denigrate women's rights and say things like "lay back and enjoy it" and "you belong in the kitchen" are now great defenders of women, when it justifies racial and religious intolerance.

Bernie Sanders said that too back in the 1970s. Just saying...

[fatjohn]

I didn't attack YOU. I said "some of the same Republicans". Which is absolutely true. I don't know if that includes you or not.

By the way, we are not having a debate. You are appealing to emotion and presenting some anecdotal information and nothing more. That's not a debate.

You quoted my text, which was a defense of women's rights. But sure whatever.
Furthermore, my text also provided statistics of an entire nation. That is the opposite of providing anecdotal evidence.

Is text from the quran anecdotal?
http://corpus.quran.com/translation....ter=4&verse=34

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

[ProIndividual]

It is time to look closer at the "sometimes" part. Do we have any stats ?

I don't need the stats (although a search engine will show you the vast majority of immigrants commit no crimes). You need the stats, as the burden of proof falls on those calling for state action against individuals. Do you have any stats showing immigrants are such a grand threat now per capita compared to past waves of immigrants? Do you have any stats that show a justification for state violence to keep them out?

Nope. But do provide a link to something that you think proves your point and justifies your economic ignorance or xenophobia, whichever is causing this.

[Zippyjuan]

Originally Posted by ProIndividual View Post
And immigration doesn't kill people, people kill people (and the killers happen to be immigrants sometimes).

It is time to look closer at the "sometimes" part. Do we have any stats ?

I like to use this image:


That can be combined with any of these too:





http://borderbattles.ssrc.org/Rumbault_Ewing/