World War III has begun

[UWDude]

Yes, I am sure of it.
Putin was sure of it months ago, but Washington thought Putin would back down again.
Now the Sunni/NATO axis will be forced to fight back on behalf of ISIS.

This was all planned many, many decades ago by soviet planners. Soviets were always really just Russians, so their plans morphed from a plan to defeat capitalist America and world wide communist revolution, to simply the plan to beat America in WW III, and believe me, they will. Putin's brilliance will become more and more clear in the coming years. He has played the critical role of bringing the decades long strategy to fruition.

So first, some updates on the situation in Syria:
+China is sending in advisers to help Assad.

+Russia has stated they will help Iraq bomb ISIS as well, but has not yet received a request from the Iraqi government... ...yet.

+Iran is sending in thousands of regular special forces troops. Not Hezbollah. Actual Iranian soldiers, and plan to start a ground invasion under Russian air power soon.

+Russia wins yet another propaganda victory: it is obvious a talking point was supposed to mention how poor Russian dumb bombs are at not killing civilians. In fact, you can see the western press trying to right now. How convenient, that instead, the news in the 12 doctors without borders, and their ICU patients burning in their beds, including 3 children, in Kunduz. Coincidence? Of course not. Anti-american intelligence agencies have been feeding them bad intelligence since for decades.

+Related to the above story, American arrogance about the hospital bombing with become a flash point in Europe. To make the EU neutral has been a main goal of the soviet plan. Once force is introduced, and the threat of world war, you will see Europe shy away from it's NATO obligations. And even more amazing, many of the Eastern bloc NATO nations will leave the alliance (right when they are called upon to participate, of course). The bully style of diplomacy America has used with Europe only works when America is the only bully.

+The latest mass shooting sensation went for the biggest fracture line... the shooter was killing Christians, and Obama (the perceived muslim, who, by the way, did not just coincidentally win the presidency with a name close and identical to Americas two biggest "enemies" at the time, Hussien and Osama.) This makes Christians feel like they are yet again under attack, and it makes gun rightist feel they are under attack. But most importantly, the very day WW III starts, Americans are once again "agreeing" maybe there are too many mass shootings, and it is time to disarm.

+America's Euro allies are just about ready to throw in the towel on chocolate kingpin Poreshenko in the Ukraine. In the Ukraine, the new government will fall this year or next, but not to pro-Russian, but to the ultra right nationalists. I know this because I see Putin's strategy. He is actually uniting the right of all the nations. That is why he is embracing and courting the church and religious conservatives of Europe. The right wing in The Ukraine, and across Europe, will revert to their nationalist and racist sentiments because...

+Millions of Syrian refugees are pouring into a Europe that by and large hates Muslims. Now Putin will be seen as the Muslim terrorist killer, and Assad his right hand man. Anything to stop the refugees from coming. Euro coddling of these war refugees will only inflame the right wings more.

Why the right wing? Because they are the most well armed in America, and the least likely to stray from their strongly held beliefs. And in all countries, the conservatives are more likely to have military backgrounds.The end goal is to incite the right to armed rebellion, creating a left wing counter attack, that will be brutal. A left wing revolution carried out by the government itself. It doesn't matter who wins to Russia anymore, although the original plan was the left wins in communist revolution. Now Russia just needs the divide and conquer chaos, to weaken the US.

The use of force by Russia has just changed the entire calculus in the middle east. I can see the Western press scrambling to gain footing, but right now, they don't even know what to do. Their two hastily erected talking points are "Russia is hitting the wrong terrorists" and "Russia's bombs are dumb bombs, and killing civilians". It is hilarious to see these backfire. Americas media machine, and the entire control apparatus, is in a state of shock, and their next moves are predictable. Lies, and more blatant support for ISIS. A wild card is Israel, who may just go mad and fly into Iran.

When ISIS is pushed out of Syria in a few months, America will look like a damned fool.





Seriously, if anyone wants to read what the master plan is and was, read The Perestroika Deception by Anatoly Golitsyn. Everything he wrote is just now coming true.

It's the end of the world as we know it.... ...and I feel fine.

[JK/SEA]

well, until Wolf Blitzer announces it, i'll just sit here with no expectations.

[DevilsAdvocate]

[puppetmaster]

Put in did not have to lift a finger...we sunk ourselves

[AngryCanadian]

Doubtful. But its the start of the end of America's meddling in that region. The GOP have no solutions expect more chaos.

[Natural Citizen]

WWIII started some time ago in the form of economic warfare and intelligence spying on the financial clearing of foreign nations. Since then, we have seen trade routes and pipelines rerouted and many other endeavors to include joint space/information/technology mergers as nations abroad merge in rejection of the western system of financial clearing models and infrastructure. Energy and agriculture transitions as well. Is a bit more silent and less noticable than the previous two given the Information Age in which we live. Of course, folks are free to disagree. We have certainly been indoctrinated to assume World War to be a physical combat scenario given 24/7 fear porn by way of media. As long as people continue to view World War in that spectrum, nobody will pay attention to the real and more relevant goings on. And I'm not certain that ISIL isn't just a stalking horse either, and, so, once Russia throws a monkey wrench into that we may see things get jiggy from the west. ISIL seems to show up in the most convenient of places. Will see, I suppose. Interesting timing with the TPP thing, too, while the Asian Infrastructure Development Bank and the BRICS Bank seals some deals. Traditional allies are jumping ship and moving toward those. As well, our failed and humorous foreign policy has become front and center in the eyes of the rest of the world. After that stunt in the U*kraine, nobody wants to be next on that list.

[Peace&Freedom]

WWIII will be delayed for the time being, because the moves Russia has made in Syria have been designed to make it impossible for the US to credibly spin it as belligerence or adventurism. After 7 invasions, occupations or bombing campaigns throughout the Mideast over the past decade, the US is not in a position to criticize when another nation practices intervention under an anti-terrorist pretext.

So it's not possible to demagogue the world community into isolating and demonizing Russia's activity, and Putin has in fact put out a second lifeline to the US to settle for peace with Syria, instead of another march towards war. Their actions with regards to Syria (the second major de-escalation gesture in two years) also clearly shows Russia is willing to also play the same "red crayon" foreign policy bully game the US plays.

Russia has all but stated that Syria is a red line for them, and that they will not tolerate the US trying to turn it into another client state. After Russia runs off the ISIS and FSA assets of the US over the next few weeks of bombing, perhaps Obama will take the hint this time and back off for good.

[UWDude]

WWIII started some time ago in the form of economic warfare and intelligence spying on the financial clearing of foreign nations.

There are lots of things in build ups to war, but it is when force is applied, is when the war actually starts. Force, and its effects, have been vastly underestimated by the United States, because it has not been challenged by force since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

WWIII will be delayed for the time being, because the moves Russia has made in Syria have been designed to make it impossible for the US to credibly spin it as belligerence or adventurism.

This is working on the assumption that the United States has a choice and say whether the war progresses or not. It doesn't. It's always been war, in some regards. It's part of a long range post-soviet Russian strategy.

After Russia runs off the ISIS and FSA assets of the US over the next few weeks of bombing.

This is actually what I came to address tonight. RT is reporting that thousands of ISIS fighters and leaders have already fled, msot of them to Jordan. If Russia can manage to drive ISIS out without destroying it, it has just pulled yet another amazing maneuver. And I think that is what they are hoping for. A quick, shock defeat, driving ISIS into Iraq, but moreso, into Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

Russia is quite aware of the Saudi/Qatar/US/Israeli/Turkey backing of ISIS. That three of these nations are Sunni (as is Jordan, Kuwait, and other nations helping ISIS destabilize Syria) is where the lynchpin to this strategy lies. The fighters are not particularly loyal to any government. If enough are driven into Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia will be burned by its own fire, with those who were thrown out of power during the royal secession happily forming alliances with ISIS to build a new power structure. The United States is quite happy with its bully relationship with the sunni peoples of the middle east, and parts of the collaborator governments are as well, and that makes them just as much an enemy of ISIS as Assad.

[acptulsa]

This was all planned many, many decades ago by soviet planners. Soviets were always really just Russians, so their plans morphed from a plan to defeat capitalist America and world wide communist revolution, to simply the plan to beat America in WW III, and believe me, they will. Putin's brilliance will become more and more clear in the coming years. He has played the critical role of bringing the decades long strategy to fruition.

This is funny.

The way you describe the situation, we are haplessly blundering into a masterful Russian trap which we cannot avoid and cannot escape. But the fact is, all we would have to do to avoid the whole thing as you describe it is to leave Assad and Syria the hell alone. And the only thing making the Russian trap work is that we will predictably fight for oil wherever we find it, regardless of cost, because we just can't help ourselves--where we see oil, we must spill blood, just as surely as a solid object must return to earth when released from any height within the earth's measurable gravitational pull.

I would dispute this characterization, but I have seen too much of McCain and Graham, Clinton and Kerry this millennium to doubt it. It could be avoided, but it would take a Rand Paul to do it. Are there enough Republican primary voters who want a good Christian peace enough to make that happen?

[pcosmar]

The build up for,, the arranging of the players,, the setting of the stage has been ongoing for some time, and continues.

When it starts, there won't be any questions about it.

[acptulsa]

The build up for,, the arranging of the players,, the setting of the stage has been ongoing for some time, and continues.

Absolutely.

When it starts, there won't be any questions about it.

I don't know about that. They are awfully good at convincing the frog to stay in the water until it boils. And they are awfully good at convincing us that sticking just only a single toe in the tar baby couldn't possibly do any harm at all. Just a few military advisers in Vietnam, couldn't possibly do any harm. This won't turn into a real war, we promise...

[UWDude]

The way you describe the situation, we are haplessly blundering into a masterful Russian trap which we cannot avoid and cannot escape. But the fact is, all we would have to do to avoid the whole thing as you describe it is to leave Assad and Syria the hell alone. And the only thing making the Russian trap work is that we will predictably fight for oil wherever we find it, regardless of cost, because we just can't help ourselves--where we see oil, we must spill blood, just as surely as a solid object must return to earth when released from any height within the earth's measurable gravitational pull.

It's kind of true, because the United states is so heavily dependent on oil, it is as predictable as an addict is.

[UWDude]

When it starts, there won't be any questions about it.

Actually, there will be. And by the time the first handful of nuclear weapons are detonated, it will be well known the war was on for years. When it started though, will still be murky. However, the lens of history will show it started when Russia for the first time since 1980's afghanistan, started a military adventure outside of the old soviet union.

The reason why I choose this moment, is because the Untied States and Western nations basically became enamored with three beliefs:

1) Perception is reality: this is an old neocon talking point. The fallacy was thinking they could control perception regardless of reality. Perception is reality in democracies, where the masses hold sway, but perception fails when the elements of life and death are poised against each other in war. That is when reality asserts itself, and perception fails. "perception is reality" is the misguided guiding philosophy of coddled chickenhawks, who lived their own life living themselves an actor, and the world their stage.

2) Violence is just one of the ingredients for American success and power around the world. In reality, it is the ONLY ingredient for American success and power. If America were not violent, many nations by now would have left american hegemonic orbit, but America can twist the arms of everyone, almost everyone.

3) Violence is a tool only the west can use effectively. This is the biggest misnomer. And this mistake of belief is why I consider the Russian campaign in Syria the opening shots of World War III. Russia will demonstrate how violence and war makes all their other achievements glow brighter in victory. His propaganda victories will begin to come faster and faster. When a nation goes on the offensive, if controls the pace, the level of dialogue, and in this case, even the narrative.

This basically means the US has to come up with an incident, and fast. A crisis is being hatched right now, I am sure. But that has become predictable as well.

[Danke]

It's kind of true, because the United states is so heavily dependent on oil, it is as predictable as an addict is.

And we have hundreds of years in coal reserves.

[William Tell]

World War III has begun

That is most unfortunate.

[UWDude]

I don't understand Why Iraq opened the Green Zone to the public yesterday, for the first time since 2003.
For one, there have been massive protests and riots in Bagdhad about corruption and incompetence, and these protests must be important and dangerous, because the western press has ignored them.
My guess would be it is to open up the green zone to "the big incident", which will allow a massive clampdown by the Iraqi government on Sunnis. But it is too hard to tell right now why such an un-securing of an essential area at a time when it probably will be needing more.

[acptulsa]

And we have hundreds of years in coal reserves.

And both oil companies and a military industrial complex busy trying to make burning it seem a sin, with scary stories about carbon dioxide (which we need in abundance if we're to regrow the depleted rain forests) and an EPA hyper-focused on ash.

Guess the coal companies just haven't been buying enough politicians lately.

[HVACTech]

And we have hundreds of years in coal reserves.

and, "fossil" fuels ONLY come from "Fossils" right Danke?

how do you explain their prevalence in our solar system?

[TheTexan]

World War III has begun

Bring it. We are the two-time undefeated World War World champion, I got no problem with making it three

[acptulsa]

Bring it. We are the two-time undefeated World War World champion, I got no problem with making it three

Except that we've known for half a century that only the cockroaches will win WWIII.

[Danke]

and, "fossil" fuels ONLY come from "Fossils" right Danke?

how do you explain their prevalence in our solar system?

Your posts baffle me.

[HVACTech]

Your posts baffle me.

does an AIRplane fly through the AIR?

you posted something about fuels.
I am HVACTech.

get it?

[Danke]

does an AIRplane fly through the AIR?

you posted something about fuels.
I am HVACTech.

get it?

No, still confused.

[timosman]

[S.Shorland]

Russia and China have had enough.I couldn't understand it when they didn't veto Libya but now they've decided to draw the line.It will almost certainly mean war.I've heard the reports of the Chinese aircraft carrier being docked in Syria and as soon as their J-15's are there,you can expect NATO to ramp up the rhetoric to fever pitch.I think the neocons and fellow travellers in europe are licking their lips for war but have topretend we're the 'good guys' still or risk people seeing through their statist domestic agendas.On the good side: the biblical end times show no signs of a nuclear winter (and genesis pretty much excludes it anyway).The interesting part is it's taking place adjacent to both Jerusalem and Constantinople so centre ground all around.God willing the damage will be restricted to an incursion of Israel provoking God's anger (it's his land,nothing to do with the 'jews').Or the false 'Elijah' may just appear as it's time.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Or could it be Russia and USA, simply agreed to stir the pot to keep the citizens scared, and have an excuse for excessive military spending and control of their respective populations. I'd say that is more probable than an escalation in to direct conflict between the nuclear powers.

[JK/SEA]

Or could it be Russia and USA, simply agreed to stir the pot to keep the citizens scared, and have an excuse for excessive military spending and control of their respective populations. I'd say that is more probable than an escalation in to direct conflict between the nuclear powers.

my take as well.

plus rep.

[Todd]

https://youtu.be/OQuceU3x2Ww

Here's Putin's version of the Geopolitical situation in the Middle East. He is very firm about his belief on who created the mess.

[vita3]

Time for Ron Paul anti war movement to align w/ peace Left & take over foreign policy & even Presidentcy.

[vita3]

the doom & gloom around here is annoying. One thing I like about Trump is he is saying Russia is doing right thing in Syria