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    Springfield, MO strengthened nudity laws

    A city has created new laws banning the public display of 'sideboob' and 'underboob' in the wake of recent demonstrations by Free the Nipple campaigners.

    The new laws created by the town council in Springfield, Missouri, define indecent exposure as exposing 'the female breast below a point immediately above the top of the areola'.

    But bizarrely, the council also removed a clause which bans the appearance of covered male erections, the Springfield News-Leader reported.

    It comes as debate rages in the city of 160,000 over recent 'SlutWalk' protests - aimed at raising awareness about the prevalence of rape and the excuse women's appearance is to blame.

    City attorney Dan Wichmer warned that the new laws' clause that the exposure must be 'likely to cause affront or alarm' would be difficult to establish in a prosecution.

    He said: 'There is no easy way to prove [it],' the paper reported. 'It is gray.'
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3nUzvOD8Y


    So the new law can't do anything about the very event people are trying to stop. Sounds about right.




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    The next day, a city councilman will present a bill to make similar displays illegal. However, events specifically on Park Central Squre, like the “Free the Nipple” rallies, will not be affected.

    On the heels of this month’s first “Free the Nipple” rally, in which dozens of people shed their shirts to protest unequal laws and the sexualizing of women’s bodies, many others were offended.

    City Councilman Justin Burnett expressed his concern at the Aug. 10 council meeting, and on Monday plans to put forward a bill to change the city’s current indecent exposure ordinance.

    He posted online that he met with the city’s law department and eventually crafted an ordinance the same as one in Cape Girardeau.

    It defines indecent exposure as exposing the “female breast below a point immediately above the top of the areola, for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification or which is likely to cause affront or alarm.”

    The part of the bill that explains the situations in which exposure would be indecent — particularly the part about it being “likely to cause affront or alarm” — is vague.

    “There is no easy way to prove (it),” City Attorney Dan Wichmer said. “It is gray.”

    While stricter law could take effect in most of the city, the town square is designated as a public gathering space, and thus carries special protections for free speech. Tape would still be required over the areola, but the stricter rules about the bottom half of the breast wouldn’t apply.

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    Jennifer Wilken, who has organized the modesty group, said several members of the group have reached out to her because they want to speak at the meeting.

    “Even before we talked about speaking at council, I had people coming to me asking, ‘What can I do? What do I need to do?’” she said. “They want to get involved.”

    She said she’ll be disappointed if the ordinance gets tabled, but that her group has “other routes” it can go.

    “We’re hoping that it doesn’t get tabled, and we’re hoping that they’ll vote on it and pass it,” she said. “But if it does get tabled and they just refuse to talk about it, we can start a petition to get it on the ballot — let the people of Springfield decide.”

    She said she and others are mostly concerned about safety when it comes to events like Free the Nipple.

    She’s been researching crime rates in cities and comparing it to indecent exposure laws.

    “We’re concerned about the safety of rally members too,” she said. “We want to protect them just as much as everyone else. (At the first rally) there were some young girls participating who may not realize the dangers in doing something like that.”

    (How is siccing the police on a bunch of half naked women protecting them?)

    http://www.news-leader.com/story/new...-law/31909747/
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    But bizarrely, the council also removed a clause which bans the appearance of covered male erections, the Springfield News-Leader reported.
    Well that's probably a good thing, it's not like it's something that's totally under your control..

    Especially during these protests they are having
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well that's probably a good thing, it's not like it's something that's totally under your control..

    Especially during these protests they are having
    Truth.

    I wonder how they're going to handle public pools. Lots of side boob there and if the morality snitches see it, will they call the police?
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    Well that sucks.

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    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=rape+bait

    rape bait
    A chick who dresses sluttier than the occasion calls for, thereby inviting aggressive male attention.
    Holy $#@!, look at that rape bait that just walked in! She looks like she's 16 going on 25 and dressed like a Vegas showgirl.


    U know, like those girls at clubs that are wearing really, really short skirts, forgot to put on panties and get on the stage to dance... They never pay for a drink...

    -t

    ps: google micro bikini or try this NSFW link: http://www.skinbikini.com/home.html?...FVcSHwodiEgPnw

    yeah, the transparent stuff.... hmmm....

    what will they ban next and when are the surveillance cams coming into our bedrooms and bathrooms - you know, "for our protection"

    -t
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    Is this one legal?


    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.



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    If you want to end it, just have a campaign where everyone actually calls the police.

    Hundreds of people. Daily.

    Calling the police about the exposure laws. Reporting too much boobage on the streets.

    The police lines clogged up with useless calls about half nudity. They're not actually going to send out units, but they will start to get tired of it.



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