I thought this was a good article.
http://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-e...re-iowa/#.dpuf
I also liked a sound byte I saw someone apply to it when they posted it on Facebook: "If Trump is a good at business, he'll "sell high" (as he bought low) in his politics."
Today's poll numbers tell us very little about where things will end up after this front runner with the support of a quarter of all likely voters drops out.
"If Trump is a good at business, he'll "sell high" (as he bought low) in his politics."
Agree. This was all a publicity stunt anyway.
Trump is not dropping out before Iowa.
Edit: Wrong. Trump will win nomination. Thank you Jeb.
Last edited by Kade; 01-28-2016 at 11:21 AM.
Why would he want to stay in and lose when he can drop out first and say he would have won?Originally Posted by Kade
You're definitely wrong about Rand.
That does sound like him, but he will not drop out.
With Rand...Maybe, I hope I am wrong. Still, Rand is not his father -- that I have to remind any of you of this...
If I'm right or wrong, this is going to be quite the fun thread.
I've got zero time for a guaranteed loser until I'm out of other options. The Libertarian Party is a joke in federal politics, and I'm not laughing anymore.
Wow. Where were you when I was ranting and raving like a lunatic making this same point eight years ago?
In Delaware, collecting signatures to get Ron Paul on the ballot over there. I ended up voting 3rd party in that election, as well as in 2012 for Gary Johnson, but this time around I'm feeling a bit more sour toward the Libertarian Party. Part of was due to the Cucinelli vs. Sarvis thing in Virginia, but I've generally not been terribly keen on the Libertarian Party's more left-leaning views on social issues.
If he's the same politician as he is a business man, he'll go bankrupt at the polls and then call himself the greatest politician ever-- and people will believe him."If Trump is a good at business, he'll "sell high" (as he bought low) in his politics."
Last edited by RJB; 09-30-2015 at 12:37 PM.
I supported Gary (but was too young to legally vote) in 2012 but this time I would not support the LP unless they had a pro-life candidate at the least. Also against gay marriage. That's not likely, sadly.
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Trump is an old man. He's nearly 70. His kids are all grown up. I don't think he's running his campaign from a business perspective at all. I think this is just his way of shooting the $#@!. You know, run for president, get into arguments, call people names. It's a blast! Better than sitting in a rocking chair on the porch or going fishing all day.
I don't think he'll drop out, I think he loves it. He gets so much attention, he gets to talk to the media, he gets to make hair jokes in front of thousands of screaming fans. Naw he's just having fun.
I think there is a part of him that would like to actually win. I think if he does win he'll serve it out. Just for the fact that he gets his name in the history books. But drop out of the race? Naaaw come on now. It's so fun pushing Bush's buttons!
Where in the Bible does it say for people to get together, form a government and stop gay people from getting married?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Oh it's there somewhere for sure. You just have to find the page and interpret such to your dislikes.
Letting 2 same sex adults get married and do their "thing" does not affect any straight marriage or what goes on under their household one bit. The only thing gay marriage does is take away the "special rights" afforded to straight marriage couples. Meaning, no longer a monopoly on such laws.
As Ron says, don't confuse support with endorsement. Support people being able to be themselves and live their lives even if you don't agree with it. You don't have to endorse it or legislate against it.
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
I agree completely with that article. Trump will not risk being embarrassed in Iowa.
Holy $#@! the Trumptards are alive and well in the comments section of the article from the OP.
Why does anyone think Trump will drop out? He's been #1 in the polls since he entered the race, with no signs of dropping any time soon. He has a cult following from 30% of Americans, the stupid ones. He has infinite money to spend on his campaign, and nothing better to do with his time.
Sorry, but I think he's in it until the end.
Careful, too much reason and critical thought in this post... the knuckledraggers will pounce.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/politi...ics-questions/Front-runner Donald Trump stumbles after barrage of policy questions
Rochester, New Hampshire (CNN)Donald Trump stood sweating in a crowded gym, fielding questions from voters on agriculture fees, family court disputes and military base closures.
The Republican front-runner was no longer in his wheelhouse.
Trump is often at ease parrying questions about trade, tax inversions and the deals Carly Fiorina made as chief executive of Hewlett-Packard. But on a host of issues -- some as pronounced as the future of Social Security -- Trump has shown little interest in engaging, much less detailing, his policy positions.
On Thursday evening, one voter asked Trump about GOP presidential candidate John Kasich's recent remark that the military base realignment and closure process keeps workers "on their toes." The Ohio governor's comment has drawn scrutiny in a state that is home to some 130,000 veterans and the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard.
"You're saying that's what's happening, right?" Trump said. "I heard that yesterday, actually. Not a good situation. Okay, one more question," Trump said.
When a man complained about fees from the Bureau of Land Management and the Department of Agriculture, Trump declared, "Things are going to change!" Then he quickly moved on.
At one point a mother stood up. "My question is a little closer to home," she said, explaining that she has spent years and thousands of dollars to keep her family safe. She asked Trump how he would fix the court system so other families wouldn't endure what she has gone through.
"Did you say safe? To keep them safe?" Trump asked. "What are you doing?"
"It's over now," the woman replied. "The family court system is broken."
Trump's reply: "The whole court system is broken by the way, not just family court."
Then he awkwardly pivoted to an attack on former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.
"I do think that should be a local situation, though. I'll give you an example, Jeb Bush loves Common Core," he said. "I want to see local people teaching your kids."
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http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/...Homosexuality/
One word: EGO.
It doesn't matter how much money you have or how many idiots show up at your events (I don't buy the 30% number as being hard support, it's probably closer to 22% right now), if you can't take the idea of losing, it will affect whether or not you spend your millions on something that may prove a bad investment.
If Trump drops out....that will cost his heirs billions of dollars.
He eliminates the current 40% estate tax in his tax plan....if he drops out / does not become President / if President Trump fails to get Congress to approve his tax plan....the estate tax will hit his heirs hard when he passes away. 40% of his net worth of billions of dollars is a lot of money.
Also if he drops out he'll have to continue paying the 39.6% top tax rate while he's alive instead of the 25% he is proposing in his tax plan.
What are the options available to him: 1) Become president; 2) Win the Republican nomination and lose the general election; 3) Lose the Republican nomination; 4) Drop out before he has a chance to lose.
Number 1 isn't going to happen. Trump knows it isn't going to happen. And I don't think he even wants it to happen. Out of 2-4, 4 is the only one that lets him go out on top.
Option #5....lose billions if he drops out
Please see my post #22 above and reply to it
Trump will only drop out if his support really collapses. front runners do not drop out. Rand is under huge pressure both to pull out and to stay in. I think Ron wants him in. the events in Syria and Afghanistan could influence him greatly.
The only way to stop that is by becoming president and successfully eliminating the estate tax. That's option number 1. Unless he can pull that off, which I don't believe he can, he's left with the other 3 options.
Trump doesn't pay 39.6% of his income, nobody in that bracket does unless they are so stupid that they don't have accountants showing them how to game all the exemptions and write-offs. There are ways around all of these taxes and it's stipulated that Trump knows all of them. It's completely counter-intuitive to suggest that Trump even wants to fix the tax code considering that his favorite president (Bill Clinton) put those rates into effect and a much worse president (Bush) was the one who got rid of the estate tax.
The only way Trump ends up losing "billions" is if Bernie Sanders gets elected, which is even more unlikely than Trump himself becoming president.
Hahaha. Nobody sane cares about the stupid hobo nobody candidates. Gov. Johnson did fine as an LP candidate and they also have the option of drafting Gov. Ventura this time.
So are you suggesting that he'll be able to avoid the 40% estate tax too? Yes, sure it was stupid of him to support Clinton....it's stupid for any wealthy person to support the Democrats....but that doesn't mean he can't wise up.
He'll lose billions too if Hillary gets elected....what's the difference between Hillary and Sanders?The only way Trump ends up losing "billions" is if Bernie Sanders gets elected, which is even more unlikely than Trump himself becoming president.
Last edited by qh4dotcom; 09-30-2015 at 10:54 PM.
Who the $#@! cares if Rand is not his father? Are people just saying that because its the popular liberty lingo nowadays? If so, I didn't get the memo. Ron endorsed Rand already, why are we even having a discussion about how worthy Rand is anymore????
And no, Rand is not dropping out next week, you're insane and out of touch from reality if you think he's dropping out. They're not organizing a ground game just to drop out.
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