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  1. 09-29-2015, 03:23 AM #1
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    Say NO to "Speaker McCarthy"! [Update: McCarthy out]

    California Republican that never saw a war/military/Israel/spending bill that he didn't like. Never saw a banker bill that he didn't love. A wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street. He's no better than Boehner and probably worse, if that's possible.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Kevin_McCarthy.htm

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  3. 09-29-2015, 03:50 AM #2
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    Maybe Boehner got canned because he was not neocon enough ?
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    If he's next behind Boehner, I don't see how he wouldn't just waltz right into this position with the momentum others may give him. Who else has the name recognition to be a credible challenge and a halfway decent speaker?
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    Who should we get behind that is best case mainstreamed?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Who should we get behind that is best case mainstreamed?????
    Bueller ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NoSmile View Post
    If he's next behind Boehner, I don't see how he wouldn't just waltz right into this position with the momentum others may give him. Who else has the name recognition to be a credible challenge and a halfway decent speaker?
    Nobody can waltz in without votes secured from over 50% of the members of the House of Representatives. It only takes a group of 20 Republicans to stop anyone. Granted, getting 20 to buck the party establishment might be easier said than done. But it's doable.
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    Support Sen McCarthy in his role as Speaker with all of your heart.

    Romans 13, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Who should we get behind that is best case mainstreamed?????
    Are there any? Trey Gowdy is also floated as a candidate. He's not great but can't possibly be any worse.
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    Thomas Massie has mentioned Daniel Webster for Speaker.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...r-of-The-House
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Support Sen McCarthy in his role as Speaker with all of your heart.

    Romans 13, after all.
    The one doesn't have anything to do with the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Thomas Massie has mentioned Daniel Webster for Speaker.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...r-of-The-House
    Don't know much about him but that thread is positive. Quick review of his voting record isn't much different than any other establishment RINO though. Curious what about him garners Massie's support....

    Voting records for inspection:
    https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-...r#.Vgs-_5fljIU

    http://www.ontheissues.org/FL/Dan_Webster.htm
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    I wonder how well he gets along with Jeb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Don't know much about him but that thread is positive. Quick review of his voting record isn't much different than any other establishment RINO though. Curious what about him garners Massie's support....

    Voting records for inspection:
    https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-...r#.Vgs-_5fljIU

    http://www.ontheissues.org/FL/Dan_Webster.htm
    Has nothing to do with his voting record. Webster is on record calling for a return to Regular Order in the House (which would be a huge boon for Liberty Republicans and anyone else outside the establishment) and Webster's tenure as Speaker of the House in Florida suggests this is something he genuinely believes in and would carry out. Everyone gets a chance to introduce amendments, bills go through regular committee process, no more continuing resolutions, ect. How Webster votes on individual bills isn't really important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Has nothing to do with his voting record. Webster is on record calling for a return to Regular Order in the House (which would be a huge boon for Liberty Republicans and anyone else outside the establishment) and Webster's tenure as Speaker of the House in Florida suggests this is something he genuinely believes in and would carry out. Everyone gets a chance to introduce amendments, bills go through regular committee process, no more continuing resolutions, ect. How Webster votes on individual bills isn't really important.
    That.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Has nothing to do with his voting record. Webster is on record calling for a return to Regular Order in the House (which would be a huge boon for Liberty Republicans and anyone else outside the establishment) and Webster's tenure as Speaker of the House in Florida suggests this is something he genuinely believes in and would carry out. Everyone gets a chance to introduce amendments, bills go through regular committee process, no more continuing resolutions, ect. How Webster votes on individual bills isn't really important.
    If that is the case, great. Do you have a source for his call to a return to Regular Order to share? Perhaps I'm jaded but I do think voting records matter because they demonstrate where the member's priorities and loyalties are.

    Rumors of Gowdy retiring have been spread suddenly today too, though Gowdy's office denies it. Timing is interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    If that is the case, great. Do you have a source for his call to a return to Regular Order to share? Perhaps I'm jaded but I do think voting records matter because they demonstrate where the member's priorities and loyalties are.

    Rumors of Gowdy retiring have been spread suddenly today too, though Gowdy's office denies it. Timing is interesting.
    Go to the 9:00 mark to hear Thomas Massie talk about Webster:

    https://soundcloud.com/the-joe-ellio...-thomas-massey
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    http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-policy-redux/

    on September 28, [the John Hay Initiative] hosted Speaker of the House aspirant Rep. Kevin McCarthy to explain his foreign policy views.
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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/politica...evin-mccarthy/

    War criminal Dick Cheney endorses Kevin for speaker.
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    McCarthy out!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    McCarthy out!!!
    Cite your source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    McCarthy out!!!

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    That's great news!

    Kevin McCarthy Withdraws from Speaker Race
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortney...-race-n2063011
    The only possible explanation for his exit is his disastrous comments about the Benghazi select committee. They were so damaging, that the Clinton campaign used the sound bite in a campaign ad and a prominent conservative group announced they were supporting his opponent, Rep. Daniel Webster (R-FL) McCarthy had over 200 votes secured for the Oct. 29 vote. This race is suddenly blown wide open.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    It's half good news because rather than hold the race now, it's been postponed. Probably to find another schill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Cite your source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    McCarthy out!!!


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    Rep. Jones calls for candidates with 'misdeeds' to withdraw from leadership race

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/the-ga...#ixzz3o3a0X1HP
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