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Hmm interesting..
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Please everyone, retweet this to @ChipEnglander. If this is true then Rand being the first to break this would be a major coup!
15 grand a piece hard drive from 2000? I'm stumped, I can't think of a single setup that would have cost that much per drive. Even HP didn't mark things up that high for a single drive.
So first I'd like this guy to back up his claim on the hard drive cost.
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I'd be more inclined to let Trump take care of this one for us, primarily because the media is itching for an opportunity to sling mud at Rand for being some sort of misogynist, albeit one that has been about 50 times a respectful to women as Trump and Bush have been of late.
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If I were Trump I'd pass on immediately taking this up because 1. Carly's record with HP and Lucent is unquestionably terrible and bringing up this whole angle doesn't change that fact it just adds a bit more to the stew, and 2. It seems awfully convenient for this guy to just pop up and offer this to Trump. Let the media or whoever run with it.
Seems legit.
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Thats business as usual at the corporate level. Kill or be killed.
Did she have illegal classified documents on the drives? Also, she could have just encrypted them and reformatted and save the drives.
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She was in the private sector. She can do whatever she wants with her drives.
I hate defending her.
Is Carly a paid government official?
Interesting that he picks now to surface now that Fiorina is rising...never mind that she's been around in this race this entire time.
who cares if it is true
Carly is the GOP Hillary in more ways than one
Rand should be talking about how Hillary and Carly are alike in their views of war.
The price sounded pretty high to me too. What are they hand made by a Samurai in Japan?
Destroying hard drives is standard practice. Yeah you can format it, but did the lazy IT guy do a quick format or full format? Who knows. A pile of hammered up hard drives leaves no question. They're toast.
OMG Carly had a paper shredder!!! What did she do?? What crimes is she covering up???
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Please everyone, retweet this to @ChipEnglander. If this is true then Rand being the first to break this would be a major coup!
If not true, this could be a total blunder for whoever takes it on. Share it with Trumps' people and let them handle it. Trump already had Firorina on the ropes for work at HP and Lucent. If this is true, I wouldn't mind at all if Trump drove Carly down with this. Even if it's true it could still backfire on Rand.
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WALLACE: Finally, there is a question that some of your rivals have brought up, and that is Iran. At the time you were the head of HP, there was a ban on any U.S. companies doing business with Iran, while you were the head of the company, a European subsidiary of HP sold hundreds of millions of dollars of computer equipment to Iran and the SEC ended up investigating HP for what it said was violation of the sanctions against Iran.
How do you respond to that?
FIORINA: Well, first, HP, you need to remember, was larger than each of the 50 states. It's a larger budget than any one of our 50 states and a global enterprise. And so it's impossible to ensure that nothing wrong ever happens.
The question is, what do you do when you find out?
In this case --
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: Did you say -- are you saying you didn't know about it?
FIORINA: Three years after -- in fact, the SEC investigation proved that neither I nor anyone else in management knew about it and the facts of the matter were the European subsidiary apparently was doing business with another company in the Middle East. That company was doing business with another company that was doing business with Iran. And when the company discovered this three years after I left, they cut off all ties with those companies.
The SEC investigated very thoroughly and concluded that no one in management was aware.
WALLACE: At the time, that company that was making the sales to Iran -- and you were the CEO of HP at the time -- was named the wholesaler, HP's Wholesaler of the Year.
So, how can it be that they were doing all this business with Iran, you were calling it the -- HP was calling it the Wholesaler of the Year and you didn't know what was going on?
FIORINA: The Wholesaler of the Year that you're describing was doing business with another company that was doing business with Iran. Clearly, that Wholesaler of the Year, which should not have been the Wholesaler of the Year, was not honest in their dealings with us and they were not honest in their dealings with this third company.
And that's why the dealings with this organization were cut off immediately. It is why the company cooperated with the SEC in a very thorough investigation. And it is why no charges were ever dropped -- were ever filed, because it became clear that this third company was not honest or trustworthy. Neither was the other organization that they were doing business with.
WALLACE: Ms. Fiorina --
FIORINA: It shouldn't have happened, obviously.
WALLACE: Ms. Fiorina, we're going to have to leave it there.
Thank you so much for talking with us.
FIORINA: Yes. OK.
WALLACE: And safe travels on the campaign trail.
FIORINA: Thanks, Chris.
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