Jesus vs. Paul - Christianity's Greatest Lies Exposed

[Ronin Truth]

Jesus vs. Paul - Christianity's Greatest Lies Exposed

If you call yourself a Christian, you will likely hate this booklet. But it is you who needs it the most. The goal is to challenge you to consider who you are serving. Do you serve the Lord in truth, or do you serve a man named Paul? If you need tradition more than you need Jesus, then you will not find comfort in these pages.

However, if you’ve always tried to reconcile why the Bible says one thing, but Christians say another-this should give you some insight. If you are a Bible Believer who seeks fellowship with Christians, but you find that your belief system is entirely different than theirs is- this will explain why. This to-the-point booklet uses the Holy Bible as its only source.

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-vs-Paul-.../dp/0615917747

[Ronin Truth]

Free download

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lampswithoil/JesusvsPaul.pdf

[Anti Federalist]

Interesting read, been saying this about Paul for years myself.

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So if you take the mark of the beast, you will be sent to hell forever and ever.

Notice that the saints are called “they that keep the commandments of God”.

There are many who will mislead you about this mark. Some will say that you can
repent after you take the mark; but those who preach that obviously do not understand
what Revelations 14 says in plain English.

Others will mislead you about what the mark is. They will say that it is only a
spiritual mark, so something like an RFID chip, which can be implanted in your hand or
in your forehead for tracking purposes, could not possibly be the mark that makes it so
you cannot buy or sell anything.

They will also say that the mark only has to do with worship, not a physical mark.
How could worshipping prevent you from buying or selling anything is not addressed; but
this is what they will tell you.

Do not be deceived. Before Yahushua returns, it will be a bumpy ride. People will
be killed for refusing the mark (Revelation 20:4), but as the Lord said, “he who endures
until the end shall be saved.”

[heavenlyboy34]

Free download

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lampswithoil/JesusvsPaul.pdf

I'm only a few pages in and have found a glaring error. He quotes Matthew 12 to bolster his claim that there are/were only 12 disciples. However, Jesus' command refutes this only a few chapters later in Matthew 28.

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Further, Luke describes the ordaining of many apostles in his book of Acts.

To this day, orthodox and RC priests maintain apostolic lineage. If you want, you can just talk to a priest at your local parish and he will show you a chart of his lineage.

I might read the rest of the tract for lolz-but it should be taken as an opinion piece, y'all.

[Ronin Truth]

I'm only a few pages in and have found a glaring error. He quotes Matthew 12 to bolster his claim that there are/were only 12 disciples. However, Jesus' command refutes this only a few chapters later in Matthew 28.

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Further, Luke describes the ordaining of many apostles in his book of Acts.

To this day, orthodox and RC priests maintain apostolic lineage. If you want, you can just talk to a priest at your local parish and he will show you a chart of his lineage.

I might read the rest of the tract for lolz-but it should be taken as an opinion piece, y'all.

Which of the REAL apostles of Jesus ordained Paul?

Keep on reading, or not. <shrug>

[Sola_Fide]

Which of the REAL apostles ordained Paul?

Keep reading, or not. <shrug>

Jesus Himself sent Paul. All of the "real" apostles accepted Paul's apostleship based on Jesus Himself anointing him. Would you stop these ridiculous threads.

[dannno]

Interesting read, been saying this about Paul for years myself.

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So if you take the mark of the beast, you will be sent to hell forever and ever.

Notice that the saints are called “they that keep the commandments of God”.

There are many who will mislead you about this mark. Some will say that you can
repent after you take the mark; but those who preach that obviously do not understand
what Revelations 14 says in plain English.

Others will mislead you about what the mark is. They will say that it is only a
spiritual mark, so something like an RFID chip, which can be implanted in your hand or
in your forehead for tracking purposes, could not possibly be the mark that makes it so
you cannot buy or sell anything.

They will also say that the mark only has to do with worship, not a physical mark.
How could worshipping prevent you from buying or selling anything is not addressed; but
this is what they will tell you.

Do not be deceived. Before Yahushua returns, it will be a bumpy ride. People will
be killed for refusing the mark (Revelation 20:4), but as the Lord said, “he who endures
until the end shall be saved.”

Ya and hopefully the mark isn't a diesel VW computer car

j/k

[Ronin Truth]

Jesus Himself sent Paul. All of the "real" apostles accepted Paul's apostleship based on Jesus Himself anointing him. Would you stop these ridiculous threads.

Jesus did NOT send Paul to conflict with and to contradict Jesus. Yet there he was.

Why should I? Since you just keep on choosing to post silly.

Silly Sola_Fide post score, +1.

Keep on arguing with your Bible. You'll probably catch on eventually, sooner or later.

[Anti Federalist]

Ya and hopefully the mark isn't a diesel VW computer car

j/k

OUCH

[Sola_Fide]

Jesus did NOT send Paul to conflict with and to contradict Jesus.

Right. Jesus sent Paul to preach His good news to the Gentiles, which Paul did.

[erowe1]

Which of the REAL apostles of Jesus ordained Paul?

Peter, James, and John, at the very least.

[erowe1]

There are many who will mislead you about this mark. Some will say that you can
repent after you take the mark; but those who preach that obviously do not understand
what Revelations 14 says in plain English.

The person who wrote that thinks the name of the book of Revelation has an s at the end.

[Ronin Truth]

Peter, James, and John, at the very least.

Source scriptures?

[erowe1]

Source scriptures?

Galatians 2:9

and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.

[Ronin Truth]

The person who wrote that thinks the name of the book of Revelation has an s at the end.

OMG, how will we ever survive such a devastating critique? ARRRRGH!

Are you planning on arguing with your Bible too?

[Ronin Truth]

Galatians 2:9

Shaking hands is official apostle ordination, according to Paul (if that actually even happened either)?
Got any more (better)?

[erowe1]

Shaking hands is official apostle ordination, according to Paul (if that actually even happened either).

Got any more (better)?

They acknowledged that Paul had been commissioned by Jesus Himself as the apostle to the Gentiles. What could be better than that?

[erowe1]

OMG, how will we ever survive such a devastating critique?

What is there to critique? Did they make any substantive points in there?

Are you planning on arguing with your Bible too?

As you can see, no.

[Sola_Fide]

Are you planning on arguing with your Bible too?

No. I regard the Bible as absolute truth. You are the one arguing with it (nonsensically too, by the way).

[Ronin Truth]

No. I regard the Bible as absolute truth. You are the one arguing with it (nonsensically too, by the way).

Good, then you should really like and agree with the OP PDF.

Scripture quotations are taken from the Holy Bible, King James Version. Public domain.

[Ronin Truth]

What is there to critique? Did they make any substantive points in there?


As you can see, no.

I'll let you decide.

Here ya go. https://s3.amazonaws.com/lampswithoil/JesusvsPaul.pdf

[Sola_Fide]

Good, then you should really like and agree with the OP PDF.

It doesn't matter that one quotes from the Bible. What matters is that one reads the Bible in the manner that the writers of the Bible intended for their letters to be read. You've shown that you have no interest in doing this, and all the cult websites you link to aren't interested either.

[Ronin Truth]

It doesn't matter that one quotes from the Bible. What matters is that one reads the Bible in the manner that the writers of the Bible intended for their letters to be read. You've shown that you have no interest in doing this, and all the cult websites you link to aren't interested either.

So what's your lame excuse du jour now?

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

[Sola_Fide]

So what's your lame excuse du jour now?

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

You are the laughingstock of this board. People destroy your arguments and then you just keep on going like nothing happened.

[heavenlyboy34]

So what's your lame excuse du jour now?

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

He's actually right about that. Without context, you can make Jesus' or Rothbard's or anyone's words mean what you want them to mean. You of all people ought to know this. tsk, tsk.

[Ronin Truth]

He's actually right about that. Without context, you can make Jesus' or Rothbard's or anyone's words mean what you want them to mean. You of all people ought to know this. tsk, tsk.

Try the OP for context.

I see you too made the, not to read choice. How very Paulinista of you too.

[erowe1]

Try the OP for context.

I see you too made the, not to read choice. How very Paulinista of you too.

Have you read it?

[Ronin Truth]

Have you read it?

Yes. Bought it from Amazon and have read it, after downloading and reading the free PDF.

Have You? Only 25 pages, it really goes pretty quick.

[erowe1]

Yes.

What do you consider the strongest argument it makes, or piece of evidence it adduces?

[Ronin Truth]

What do you consider the strongest argument it makes, or piece of evidence it adduces?

I didn't read it with that point of view in mind, but I'll review and give you my opinion.

How about you and yours?