Thomas Massie on Kim Davis' refusal to issue marriage licenses to gay couples

[tsai3904]

Rep. Thomas Massie said Wednesday Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis has a “moral” right to defy the Supreme Court and continue her refusal to grant marriage licenses to gay couples.

Massie said her allegiance is to Kentucky’s Constitution – not the high court’s June ruling legalizing same-sex marriage.

“When Mrs. Davis was elected, she swore an oath to Kentucky's Constitution which, as in 29 other states, contained a provision to protect traditional marriage,” Massie, R-Ky., said in a statement to the Enquirer.

“The spurious and un-American way in which the law, and therefore her job description, abruptly changed mid-term gives Mrs. Davis a moral, if not legal, defense for her actions until her next election and until a legitimate rewriting of Kentucky's marriage laws occurs during a legislative session with elected officials," Massie said.

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[RDM]

He continues to justify every dollar I've donated to him and never disappoints unlike someone else I've donated a bunch of money to.

[juleswin]

He continues to justify every dollar I've donated to him and never disappoints unlike someone else I've donated a bunch of money to.

Who? Lindsey Graham?

[Krugminator2]

She absolutely has a moral right to express her view.

Of course, whoever is above her should fire her immediately. This is the same logic as unionization. You absolutely have every moral right to unionize. And the business owner(s) have ever right to fire you if you try.

[specsaregood]

Of course, whoever is above her should fire her immediately. This is the same logic as unionization. You absolutely have every moral right to unionize. And the business owner(s) have ever right to fire you if you try.

you mean the voters? its an elected position.

[jj-]

you mean the voters? its an elected position.

They should pass a law to make it impossible to fine her, then her bosses (the voters) could freely decide whether they want to fire her or approve of her performance.

[William Tell]

YAY Thomas!

[PaleoPaul]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

[Christian Liberty]

Homosexuals are inherently anti-liberty, period, end of story...

[William Tell]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

Ever read it? What makes you say she's violating the U.S Constitution?

[kcchiefs6465]

you mean the voters? its an elected position.

Could always get rid of the position...

[erowe1]

Of course, whoever is above her should fire her immediately.

Why?

Has Kentucky yet passed any legislation requiring their clerks to issue same-sex marriage licenses?

It's not like she works for the Supreme Court.

[erowe1]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

Ever read it? What makes you say she's violating the U.S Constitution?

+1

I'd also like to hear PaleoPaul's reasoning on this.

[GunnyFreedom]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

Because the U.S. Constitution has so much to say about government authority over marriage.....

[Tywysog Cymru]

I completely support what she is doing. You don't just get to end the debate on a controversial issue because it hurts peoples' feelings (which is what the Supreme Court tried to do).

[Christian Liberty]

+1

I'd also like to hear PaleoPaul's reasoning on this.

Because he's proud of his perversion, and he wants everyone else to be as well. Its really as simple as that. Again, open and proud homosexuals will never be pro-liberty. Just one more reason the perversion should be suppressed.

[tod evans]

Because he's proud of his perversion, and he wants everyone else to be as well. Its really as simple as that. Again, open and proud homosexuals will never be pro-liberty. Just one more reason the perversion should be suppressed.

By whom?

Certainly not the federal government.

[LibertyEagle]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

Last time I checked, there was nothing in the U.S. Constitution about gay marriage.

[Christian Liberty]

By whom?

Certainly not the federal government.

I'd ultimately support the local government suppressing it, but for now I'd settle for local governments ignoring their absurd requests for "marriage."

I agree, get the feds out of everything. I'm talking like county by county here...

[Rothbardian Girl]

While I normally like what Thomas has to say about things, I wonder what the reaction would be to a hardline Muslim DMV clerk who refuses to issue women drivers' licenses on the grounds of a religious objection?

[GunnyFreedom]

While I normally like what Thomas has to say about things, I wonder what the reaction would be to a hardline Muslim DMV clerk who refuses to issue women drivers' licenses on the grounds of a religious objection?

I've never heard of DMV clerks being an elected position

[wizardwatson]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

It seems there's an army of people on here that don't grasp that this is a state's rights issue legally, not a civil rights one. That's the ultimate lie that this entire decision is fabricated on, and most of the country has fallen for it.

Because obviously a clerk in California WOULD lose her job. Because in California it is legal. This is nothing but federal judicial fiat. I don't fault her for resisting. It's futile, likely, probably she'll have to quit, but she isn't wrong.

[erowe1]

While I normally like what Thomas has to say about things, I wonder what the reaction would be to a hardline Muslim DMV clerk who refuses to issue women drivers' licenses on the grounds of a religious objection?

How would they get the job in the first place without agreeing to perform the job duties? And wouldn't they just get fired for it?

[erowe1]

It's futile, likely, probably she'll have to quit, but she isn't wrong.

You may be right. But has Kentucky actually changed its state laws on this yet?

[Occam's Banana]

While I normally like what Thomas has to say about things, I wonder what [his] reaction would be to a hardline Muslim DMV clerk who refuses to issue women drivers' licenses on the grounds of a religious objection?

I don't know - but whatever it might be, I'd be surprised (and disappointed) if it granted much if any authority to the Feds or SCOTUS, one way or the other ...

[wizardwatson]

You may be right. But has Kentucky actually changed its state laws on this yet?

I believe how it works is a federal judge simply declares the constitutional amendment defining marriage as 1 man 1 woman as "unconstitutional" and then if any clerk denies a license a judge has to order the clerk to comply and threaten contempt otherwise. The state government isn't legally obligated to enforce a federal legal interpretation when the entire state lawmakers are against it, I'm guessing.

So basically a federal judge will have to remove her by throwing her in jail.

We have same scenario in Kansas it's just all of our county clerks are complying with the federal judge's declaration that our Constitutional amendment is unconstitutional.

[PaleoPaul]

Oh, and she instructed her employees to NOT issue licenses. Another reason she should be held in contempt. It would be one thing if she alone was refusing to issue the licenses. But for her to instruct her entire staff to not issue the licenses? What about THEIR sincerely-held beliefs?

[GunnyFreedom]

AP Breaking News app just said that a judge has ordered her to jail.

[tod evans]

AP Breaking News app just said that a judge has ordered her to jail.

Gosh!

Wonder what the Evangelicals are going to DO about this?

Bend over and spread 'em, those who stridently quote Romans 13.

Do ya' see where peaceful acquiescence gets ya'?

[Brett85]

He's wrong. She swore an oath to defend the US Constitution as well. DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT, MISSY.

That's exactly what she's doing, upholding the Constitution. She's been sent to prison for upholding the Constitution.