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    Autism begins in the womb, according to a new study

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/274655.php

    A new study claims to show for the first time that autism begins in the womb, while another examines possible environmental influences on autism development.

    The origins of autism have been passionately debated by many scientists and commentators. What is known about autism is that it is a physical condition, which is linked to abnormal biology and brain chemistry.

    Genes seem to play an important part in the development of autism - identical twins, for instance, are much more likely to both have autism than non-identical siblings. But there has not been any clear consensus in medical opinion about what other contributing causes there may be.

    Some things that have been suspected as being linked to autism - but which have not been proven - include diet, changes in the digestive tract, mercury poisoning, problems with the body processing vitamins and minerals, and vaccines.

    A recent, large study in the journal PLoS Computational Biology suggests that environmental pollution could be a contributing factor to autism risk, but the study was unable to name any specific toxins that might be responsible.

    That study assessed 100 million US health insurance claims to look at rates of autism on a county-by-county basis. It also used genital malformations in boys - micropenis, undescended testicles and cases where the urethral opening is on the underside of the penis - as indicators of environmental pollution.

    The researchers found that for every 1% increase in genital birth defects in a county, the rate of autism there increased by nearly 300%.

    "Both genes and environment are important," emphasizes the lead researcher, Andrey Rzhetsky, a professor of genetic medicine at the University of Chicago in Illinois.

    Study finding an in-utero basis for autism is the first to do so
    The other new study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, analyzed the brain tissue of children with autism.

    The researchers - from the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine and the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle, WA - examined 25 genes in the postmortem brain tissue of children with and without autism. These genes included biomarkers for brain cells in different layers of the cortex, genes that have been linked to autism and several control genes.

    Analyzing the brain tissue of deceased children who had autism breaks ground with previous research, which instead has used the brain tissue of adults with autism and attempted to extrapolate back to what might have occurred developmentally.

    The team found that key genetic markers across multiple layers of brain cells were missing in the brains of autistic children.
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    How many vaccines to pregnant women get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How many vaccines to pregnant women get?
    How much (polluted) water do pregnant women drink? How about seafood? Processed food?
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    How does the fact that a peanut allergy starts in the womb change the fact that it never gets triggered and never becomes a problem until peanuts are actually encountered?

    I don't recall anyone ever claiming that one person can't be more susceptible to autism than another, regardless of what actually causes it.

    I don't see anything in the article that supports the hyperbole of the headline. Though genetic markers can be found fresh from the womb, I don't think anyone has ever detected actual autism in the womb.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-02-2015 at 01:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    How much (polluted) water do pregnant women drink? How about seafood? Processed food?
    How much herbicides and pesticides has she been around?
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    Do you people actually read anything except the headline?

    A recent, large study in the journal PLoS Computational Biology suggests that environmental pollution could be a contributing factor to autism risk, but the study was unable to name any specific toxins that might be responsible.

    That study assessed 100 million US health insurance claims to look at rates of autism on a county-by-county basis. It also used genital malformations in boys - micropenis, undescended testicles and cases where the urethral opening is on the underside of the penis - as indicators of environmental pollution.

    The researchers found that for every 1% increase in genital birth defects in a county, the rate of autism there increased by nearly 300%.

    "Both genes and environment are important," emphasizes the lead researcher, Andrey Rzhetsky, a professor of genetic medicine at the University of Chicago in Illinois.
    Obviously autism is tied to the wide-spread adoption of air conditioning. (I went all "natural news" and just made that last per up, btw.)
    Last edited by angelatc; 09-03-2015 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Do you people actually read anything except the headline?



    Obviously autism is tied to the wide-spread adoption of air conditioning. (I went all "natural news" "CDC" and just made that last per (sic) up, btw.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    How does the fact that a peanut allergy starts in the womb change the fact that it never gets triggered and never becomes a problem until peanuts are actually encountered?

    I don't recall anyone ever claiming that one person can't be more susceptible to autism than another, regardless of what actually causes it.

    I don't see anything in the article that supports the hyperbole of the headline. Though genetic markers can be found fresh from the womb, I don't think anyone has ever detected actual autism in the womb.
    There is no test to detect autism- at any age. It can not be "detected"- in anybody. It is a broad description of symptoms which are subject to interpretation. Kids get called autistic today who would not have been called autistic 20 years ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    There is no test to detect autism- at any age. It can not be "detected"- in anybody. It is a broad description of symptoms which are subject to interpretation. Kids get called autistic today who would not have been called autistic 20 years ago.
    And if none of those symptoms show in the womb, how are these "scientists" you quoted that so certain that more than the genetic disposition 'begins in the womb', as you so faithfully parroted in your thread headline?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Chester Copperpot
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    only a fool who doesnt believe in the law of Nature would argue against man-made/synthetic/fractionated/artificial foods, drugs, and injections having NO effect on disease.

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    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    glad to see youre finally coming around on things... i think everybody can agree that all the environmental factors like vaccines and processed foods in the mother cause diseases like autism in the fetus and children...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And if none of those symptoms show in the womb, how are these "scientists" you quoted that so certain that more than the genetic disposition 'begins in the womb', as you so faithfully parroted in your thread headline?
    Read the article if you are serious in learning about it.



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