Now it is diabetes from vaccines?
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Now it is diabetes from vaccines?
Diabetes is a well known side effect. I told you to check the insert for the MMR vaccine. It's on Merck's website. But hey if you ever get damaged by a vaccine, you can always call the The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program which exists, because vaccines do damage people.
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How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
Since it is "well known" it must be fairly common. How often does it occur following vaccination? Do you have studies and scientific evidence to support it or "just somebody saying so?"Diabetes is a well known side effect.
"Read the Merck Insert" you asked in your rep. The list of side effects comes from VAERS- the vaccine reporting system as well as clinical trials. This is a voluntary reporting system and anybody can claim they experienced a side effect following vaccination. Even you or I. Or doctors. These reports are tabulated but not investigated or verified as to whether there actually was a cause and effect but for legal reasons, all are listed- however rare. If a symptom does get a high number of reports, then they do look into it.Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom
The insert notes: https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi.../mmr_ii_pi.pdf
Without regard to causality- meaning it was not necessarily caused by the vaccine. I could break my foot going home from getting vaccinated. That event followed the vaccine. Did the vaccine cause me to break my foot?ADVERSE REACTIONS
The following adverse reactions are listed in decreasing order of severity, without regard to causality,
within each body system category and have been reported during clinical trials, with use of the marketed
vaccine, or with use of monovalent or bivalent vaccine containing measles, mumps, or rubella:
Body as a Whole
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/puarticles/iddm.htm
References at link.Current Evidence - No Link Between Vaccination and Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus
Postulated autoimmune mechanism for suggested link with vaccines
Several researchers have postulated that type 1 (insulin dependent) diabetes mellitus may develop secondary to an abnormal immune response to some viral infections. The possibility that childhood vaccination may also be associated either negatively or positively has also been considered. The steady increase in the incidence of type 1 diabetes mellitus in children in several countries1,2 has lent some credence to the possibility of a positive association. Studies in diabetic mice have found that Bacille Calmette-Guérin (BCG) vaccine has interrupted the development of diabetes mellitus.3 However, most studies in humans published to date have not supported the postulated negative association with BCG vaccine or the positive association with other vaccines, but rather have found evidence for no association.
No difference in rate of BCG vaccination between cases and controls
Classen and Classen4 studied the incidence of diabetes and the immunisation schedule in a number of developed countries and found that the countries with the lowest rates of diabetes were those with pertussis vaccine in the vaccination programme and in which infants received BCG vaccine before 2 months of age. However, 2 of the areas where neither pertussis nor BCG were part of the schedule had among the lowest annual incidence rates (Lazio and Lombardi regions of Italy with 6.5 and 6.8 cases/100,000, respectively). Further, the study did not include Finland which has the highest incidence of type 1 diabetes in children under 15 years (35.3/100,000 for 1987-89)5 and where BCG has been given at birth for several decades.1
A study6 conducted in Québec found no difference in the overall rate of BCG vaccination in children with type 1 diabetes mellitus compared with the control group in either of 2 case series. However, in one case series, BCG vaccination did appear to delay the onset of diabetes (12.2 ± 3.5 years for vaccinated compared with 9.2 ± 4.5 years for nonvaccinated) and vaccination at birth reduced the incidence.
No association with MMR, pertussis or H. Influenzae type b
Other studies have not found an association between childhood diabetes and measles, mumps and rubella (MMR),7 pertussis,8 or Haemophilus influenzae type b9 vaccines. In the study of MMR vaccine, IgG class mumps antibodies were lower in the case group with diabetes than in the controls, but the significance of this difference in antibody levels was unknown. One study10 observed a protective effect from measles vaccination and an increase in risk of type 1 diabetes with increasing load of infections.
A review by the Cochrane Collaboration Vaccines Field5 concluded that "the papers that explored the relation between vaccination and type 1 diabetes mellitus either did not find evidence of the causal link or found evidence against such a link." Another recent review3 was in support of this conclusion. Further studies investigating this possible association are currently being conducted.11
Can you- as you have requested of me- provide scientific evidence of diabetes being caused by the MMR vaccine?
You seem to be lacking in this "scientific evidence".
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-31-2015 at 07:44 PM.
Most common side effects- MMR Vaccine starting with the most common: http://www.drugs.com/pro/m-m-r-ii-vaccine.html
Diabetes must be under that bit at the bottom- the rarest events which "may" occur. The "rarer than rare" category.What are the possible side effects of M-M-R II?
The most common side effect of vaccination with M-M-R II is burning and/or stinging at the site of the shot for a short time.
Other side effects may include:
Fever
Rash
Less common side effects may also include:
Swelling of the testicles
Joint pain and/or swelling
Some side effects are rare but may be serious. You should call your health care provider if you notice any of the following problems:
Difficulty breathing, wheezing, hives, or a skin rash may be signs of an allergic reaction.
Bleeding or bruising under the skin.
Seizures, a severe headache, or a change in behavior or consciousness.
Other side effects may also occur. Your doctor has a more complete list of side effects for M-M-R II.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-31-2015 at 07:46 PM.
New Paper Provides Convincing Evidence Vaccine Induced Immune Overload and Related Serious Health Issues is Becoming the Norm not the Exception in US Children
BALTIMORE, May 13, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- A new peer reviewed paper was published in a recent issue of Molecular and Genetic Medicine (s1:025)(s1:2014) that presents convincing evidence that the rapid increase in the number of vaccines given to US children has now created a state of immune overload in the majority, or close to the majority, of young US children and that this is being manifested by related health issues including epidemics of obesity, diabetes, and autism. The new paper is authored by immunologist J. Bart Classen, MD.
"We have been publishing for years that vaccines are causing an epidemic of inflammatory diseases including diabetes, obesity and autism. However the number of vaccines given to children has continued to rise to a point where we have reached a state of immune overload in roughly the majority of young US children. The new paper reviews the evidence of immune overload and the plethora of different health effects the children are developing because of the immune overload," says Dr. J. Bart Classen, MD.
Dr. Classen's research indicates that the large number of vaccines given to patients is leading to an epidemic of chronic inflammation resulting in epidemics of autoimmune diseases, allergies, and a comprehensive inhibitory response manifesting as obesity and metabolic syndrome.
Continued...
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Link is to a press release and a link to his own anti-vax website and not a study?
Molecular and Genetic Medicine is an "open access" (pay to publish) publication.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-31-2015 at 08:06 PM.
Bart Classen is not against vaccines--but nice try, as usual, with going off course on the issue.
http://www.vaccines.net/newpage1.htm
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Link to any pro-vaccination articles he has written?
I already did.READ HIS WEBSITE LINK PROVIDED ABOVE.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
"Press releases" is all articles about rare events he claims to have conclusively linked to vaccines. http://www.vaccines.net/newpage2.htm
"Publications" are nearly all on trying to link diabetes to vaccines- and studies have not supported the link. http://www.vaccines.net/newpage12.htm
Get vaccinated! Get diabetes!
That is pro-vaccine?
Wiki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Bart_Classen
John Barthelow Classen is an American immunologist and anti-vaccinationist. He received his M.D. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore in 1988, his M.B.A. from Columbia University in 1992 and obtained his medical license in October 1997.[1][2] He is best known for publishing research concluding that vaccines, in particular the Hib vaccine, cause insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,[3] a hypothesis he proposed based on experiments he conducted on mice in 1996.[4] His views are disputed and considered unverified.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-01-2015 at 11:49 AM.
From the website above:
Classen Immunotherapies, Inc. is a privately held research stage biopharmaceutical company devoted to discovering safer uses of vaccines...
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
He's a patent troll who claims to have patented the idea of measuring adverse reactions to vaccines.
vaccines suck
No- they are a stick in the arm.
Or in the ass.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
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