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    Trump. Premptive strike against North Korea.

    I don’t think anybody is going to accuse me of tiptoeing through the issues or tap-dancing around them either. Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?
    More continuation of the RP revolution.....
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    This is like the guy who said the US should bomb Iran to see what happens.

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    This is what I said before. Trump is going to use our military power (including our nuclear weapons) as a negotiating tool to extract huge concessions.

    North Korea is a puppet state of China. You attack North Korea, you get yourself a full on hot war with our major creditors.

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    He reminds me more of Greg Stillson every day.



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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    More continuation of the RP revolution.....
    I don’t think anybody is going to accuse me of tiptoeing through the issues or tap-dancing around them either. Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?
    Any links or source for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Any links or source for that?
    From his book.
    http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Dona...ar_+_Peace.htm
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    Nice, how is Trump better than Bush again?

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    There is long section on North Korea in his book which I find reading so far a logical assessment of that regime. There are pages I am unable read since they were blocked from preview but here is some relevant text I copied.

    Quote Originally Posted by The America We Deserve - By Donald Trump - Jan 15, 2000
    ...I can tell you that negotiation with these madman will be fruitless once they have the ability to lob a nuclear missile into Chicago, Los Angeles or New York.....

    I'm not trigger happy, nor would I consider the use of force lightly, but as President I would be prepared to order a strike-using conventional weapons-against North Korean targets if it prevented nuclear blackmail or nuclear destruction of the US population.

    I'm not talking about an extended air campaign against North Korea and certainly not a ground war. I'm talking about a very specific target and then returning to the bargaining table.

    I am advocating such action only after talks break down - which is highly likely in view of the North Korean's track record of violating everything they have agreed to so far.
    I cannot find the exact "pre-emptive" quote from ontheissues.org, maybe it is on a page blocked from google books preview. Does anyone have a copy of the book?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    There is long section on North Korea in his book which I find reading so far a logical assessment of that regime. There are pages I am unable read since they were blocked from preview but here is some relevant text I copied.



    If you are telling me Rand is going to sit back and let North Korea nuclear blackmail us then I am fully on-board in voting for Trump.
    Proving more to the point that Trump is a $#@!ING military moron that would get us into WWWIII quicker that any person. Go into NK and they would launch a full on ground invasion of SK. Then the US would be committed and likely looking at a war with China. NK talks crazy but prove they aren't when the chips are down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Ok. A quote from his book:

    Use force to stop North Korean nuke development

    [In a Trump presidency], North Korea would suddenly discover that its worthless promises of civilized behavior would cut no ice. I would let Pyongyang know in no uncertain terms that it can either get out of the nuclear arms race or expect a rebuke similar to the one Ronald Reagan delivered to Ghadhafi in 1986. I don’t think anybody is going to accuse me of tiptoeing through the issues or tap-dancing around them either. Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?

    Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.274 , Jul 2, 2000
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    There is long section on North Korea in his book which I find reading so far a logical assessment of that regime. There are pages I am unable read since they were blocked from preview but here is some relevant text I copied.
    Kind of looks like the Clinton program though. Blow up a few aspirin factories to prove you mean business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    This is what I said before. Trump is going to use our military power (including our nuclear weapons) as a negotiating tool to extract huge concessions.

    North Korea is a puppet state of China. You attack North Korea, you get yourself a full on hot war with our major creditors.
    China has been distancing themselves from North Korea lately. But would still back them if they were attacked since they have a treaty until 2021 I believe.

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    bump
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    oh yeah cause china who is our banker and owner will allow that.. trump you are $#@!ing retarded.
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