Border Surge Drives up Enrollment in NYC Schools

[alucard13mm]

US tax dollars for US citizens. Thats all i gotta say. No tax dollars for other countries or for non citizens.

[phill4paul]

They are a problem, yes. Are they the source of the problem? No. But, while we try to fix the source of the problem, adding in the illegals, shortens the time we have to fix it.

I don't particularly care to live in a 3rd world country. Perhaps you do.

Good luck fixing the "source" of the problem when it continues to re-direct any energies you spend reigning them in by creating, for you, an outrage greater than the cause.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

It's old but still applicable. Fact is they'll come no matter what. I would. Only solution is eliminate welfare or the vast bulk of it.

[Brian4Liberty]

Exactly. All those issues are one thing. Immigration is something else entirely. They have nothing to do with each other.

It would be strange for me to see someone here get outraged that illegal immigrants get those things and then be any less outraged that citizens get them.

It would be similar to foreign aid, especially of the humanitarian variety. Welfare could be described as domestic humanitarian aid, so then the question would be should humanitarian aid be separated into foreign and domestic, or should they both be the same?

[Lord Xar]

The left needs its next generation of voters..... the swarm will continue because the left will make concessions to the right - to continue their spying/wars.

A cozy relationship in which the right will capitulate in the short term, for blood & death in perpetuity.

[Acala]

The left needs its next generation of voters..... the swarm will continue because the left will make concessions to the right - to continue their spying/wars.

A cozy relationship in which the right will capitulate in the short term, for blood & death in perpetuity.

LOL at the idea that there is a left and a right except in the mind of the duped voters. There is ONE agenda in government and it has nothing whatsoever to do with left or right. Left versus right is a diversion to keep the real agenda obscured. The real agenda is always power for the state.

[angelatc]

So, you guys think it's fine to force American citizens to pay to educate foreigners who entered our country illegally?

The anarchists aren't pragmatic. I am with you.

The illegals have more freedom than the citizens do. I could not get my kid into school without 2 forms of ID.

[Ender]

LOL at the idea that there is a left and a right except in the mind of the duped voters. There is ONE agenda in government and it has nothing whatsoever to do with left or right. Left versus right is a diversion to keep the real agenda obscured. The real agenda is always power for the state.

TRUTH.

Let's all blab on about those dirty illegals and right vs left so that TPTB can keep the populace panties in a twist and their eye off the mark.

[erowe1]

US tax dollars for US citizens.

Why should Americans have their money taken from them and given to other Americans? How does the fact that the recipient is an American citizen in any way justify that?

[erowe1]

The anarchists aren't pragmatic. I am with you.

The illegals have more freedom than the citizens do. I could not get my kid into school without 2 forms of ID.

What prevents you from just saying they're illegal immigrants?

[William R]

Why would NumbersUSA fans be here? I don't get it. If you're anti-immigration, and that's one of your most important issues, then according to NumbersUSA's own ratings, Ron Paul was the worst Republican of the bunch in 2012, and Rand is close to the worst for 2016.

Numbers USA gives Rand an A rating.


https://www.numbersusa.com/content/m...card/CONGRESS/

[Brian4Liberty]

Exactly. All those issues are one thing. Immigration is something else entirely. They have nothing to do with each other.

It would be strange for me to see someone here get outraged that illegal immigrants get those things and then be any less outraged that citizens get them.

Should there be a distinction between domestic and foreign aid?

It would be similar to foreign aid, especially of the humanitarian variety. Welfare could be described as domestic humanitarian aid, so then the question would be should humanitarian aid be separated into foreign and domestic, or should they both be the same?

[erowe1]

Numbers USA gives Rand an A rating.


https://www.numbersusa.com/content/m...card/CONGRESS/

Check again.

That rating is solely based on his congressional votes, which are limited by what actually comes up for a vote. When they grade his positions as a presidential candidate, according to his own words about what he supports, he is one of the worst Republicans in the mix (from a closed-border, anti-freedom, standpoint), with a D+.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/e...-hopefuls.html

[erowe1]

Should there be a distinction between domestic and foreign aid?

If by that you mean to ask if domestic aid is somehow justifiable just because it's domestic, then absolutely not.

[Brian4Liberty]

If by that you mean to ask if domestic aid is somehow justifiable just because it's domestic, then absolutely not.

No, the question is whether foreign humanitarian aid is justified because domestic humanitarian aid exists (in many forms).

[erowe1]

No, the question is whether foreign humanitarian aid is justified because domestic humanitarian aid exists (in many forms).

Of course not. The reason it isn't justified is the same as the reason domestic humanitarian aid isn't. To be outraged at one more than the other makes no sense.

[Brian4Liberty]

Of course not. The reason it isn't justified is the same as the reason domestic humanitarian aid isn't. To be outraged at one more than the other makes no sense.

Perhaps in a globalist sense. But both Ron and Rand have addressed foreign spending as being more "outrageous" than domestic spending. It is very understandable to have that opinion in today's world, and double for those who believe in or want to maintain US sovereignty.

[nobody's_hero]

I've been thinking about moving to New York just so I can move away from there and tell them how pissed off I am about how they're managing things up there.

But in a few years it will be time to flee Georgia due to an infestation of liberal transplants in Atlanta, so if I stay put I'll get my chance to do that here.