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  1. #61
    Cruz is playing the game that Rand should have been. Trump is showing that people are pissed, and he is going over the top to cater to them. Cruz appeals to the slightly better informed, slightly less berserk veteran voter that trump turns off by casting himself as despised by the establishment without going into details. Rand keeps trying to gain traction by speaking to the issues. A game that just doesn't work.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac Bickerstaff View Post
    Cruz is playing the game that Rand should have been. Trump is showing that people are pissed, and he is going over the top to cater to them. Cruz appeals to the slightly better informed, slightly less berserk veteran voter that trump turns off by casting himself as despised by the establishment without going into details. Rand keeps trying to gain traction by speaking to the issues. A game that just doesn't work.
    Do you think that Ted Cruz is going to get all of Trumps supporters?

  4. #63
    No, I think he is siphoning off people that want to support trump, but just can't sink quite that low.

  5. #64
    The GOP leadership will continue to fail us - regardless of whether it's Trump, Rand Paul, or any of the other clowns that make it into office.

    Trump and Paul are the best of the lot - that I don't dispute.

    But the U.S. is too far gone to enact the changes that are needed - which would start with closing the border, a complete moratorium on immigration, an end to all foreign aid, and withdrawing our troops from all pointless wars.

    I'm not convinced that Trump or any of the others can make even one of these happen. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    So Trump has something in common with paleo-cons. So does Bernie Sanders. But they're both left-wing extremists.
    Wrong again, erowe.

    Sanders has nothing in common with paleocons.

    Rand has a lot and he badly needs airtime to get it out.

    Since you brought it up, your stance on open borders is quite the leftist position. If Rand held that position, I would not be supporting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    He's not a pure libertarian. But he's better than the rest of the Republicans, and certainly nowhere close to as much of a progressive as Trump is on the issue. You yourself know this full well. It's the whole reason you've been on here bashing Rand and cheering on Trump lately. In fact, you've never been as enthusiastic about anything in these forums over your 8 years here as you have been lately about Trump and his big-government promises about immigration.
    Defending our nation from an invasion, is actually one of the few legitimate functions of the federal government.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Look it Up
    Permit me to issue and control a nation's money, and I care not who makes it's laws.
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    Last edited by Jamesiv1; 08-27-2015 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac Bickerstaff View Post
    Cruz is playing the game that Rand should have been. Trump is showing that people are pissed, and he is going over the top to cater to them. Cruz appeals to the slightly better informed, slightly less berserk veteran voter that trump turns off by casting himself as despised by the establishment without going into details. Rand keeps trying to gain traction by speaking to the issues. A game that just doesn't work.
    Once Cruz supporters find out that he proposes a %500 increase in H-1B immigration they will be looking for someone else.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac Bickerstaff View Post
    No, I think he is siphoning off people that want to support trump, but just can't sink quite that low.
    Why do you think that? Cruz isn't doing very well in polls. Trump hurt his numbers as much as or more than Rand's. Lately Rand has been ahead of Cruz.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Why do you think that? Cruz isn't doing very well in polls. Trump hurt his numbers as much as or more than Rand's. Lately Rand has been ahead of Cruz.
    Quinnipiac poll released this morning Cruz is at 7 Paul 2.

    http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...ReleaseID=2274

    Rand is done!! He might not be included in future debates. Sad but true.

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by William R View Post
    Rand is done!! He might not be included in future debates. Sad but true.
    It's not sad but true. It's ridiculous that you say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Ignore the puppets; watch the puppet-masters.
    ...yup...unfortunately 99.9% of republicrats i've met are monetary ignoramuses/meat-heads who think, 'the government prints our money and they print way too much'...

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    This is an impressive Trump crowd in SC today.

    Only Sanders and maybe Hillary can draw a crowd like this.

  17. #74
    Ron Paul made people think and question their deeply-held beliefs. Trump is dumbing things down.
    Stop believing stupid things

  18. #75
    I am developing a medical condition that makes me want to keep yelling expletives every time I hear the name Donald Trump. America is so f*cked
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  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    I am developing a medical condition that makes me want to keep yelling expletives every time I hear the name Donald Trump. America is so f*cked
    It's called sanity.
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  20. #77
    Meanwhile, Boehner is out there pushing the crony corporatist, US Chamber of Commerce agenda.

    The doublethink is glaring...

    EXCLUSIVE TO THE TRIB: For the sake of jobs, lift the ban on exporting U.S. oil

    By John Boehner
    Saturday, Aug. 22, 2015

    The United States recently overtook Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world's leading oil and natural gas producer. This is a big achievement, especially when you consider that just a decade ago, our energy future looked murky. We were importing most of the oil we consumed; we were building terminals to import natural gas. Congress even passed a law in 2006 to move the country toward other sources of energy.

    Republicans didn't give up, though. We included a provision in that same law — the Energy Policy Act — which recognized that the states were doing a good job regulating the process of hydraulic fracturing. We saw that Washington didn't need to dictate how things were done or get involved at all.

    Ten years later, this one provision has helped unleash a national energy boom that has created countless jobs and a manufacturing revolution.
    ...
    You see, for all its success, this energy boom is currently running into a brick wall in the form of other federal government policies that date back to the 1970s. Even as the Obama administration seeks to lift sanctions on Iran's oil exports, the law is still keeping our own producers from exporting crude oil. Most Americans don't even know that we have such a ban, but we do, and it costs them every time they fill up their gas tank.

    By lifting the ban, we can create about a million more jobs at home. We can increase household incomes and lower prices at the pump even further. And we can help our allies, including Israel, which imports much of its oil from Russia. With all the potential here, I hope the administration will work with us in the coming months to lift the oil export ban once and for all.
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    More: http://triblive.com/opinion/featured...oil-energy-gas
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  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by William R View Post
    You're an idiot. A pompous idiot.
    Give me an issue in which you support Donald Trump and I guarantee I will produce a quote from him contradicting what you support. As I said before, worse than Romney and his supporters are gullible idiots.

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