View Poll Results: Which two issues are going to be most important for GOP Primaries voters? ( select only two)

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  • Immigration/Border control

    28 58.33%
  • SWCcare

    3 6.25%
  • Civil liberties

    5 10.42%
  • Intervention in Syria/Iran

    13 27.08%
  • National debt/Economy

    30 62.50%
  • Gay marriage

    1 2.08%
  • Other ( describe )

    7 14.58%
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Thread: Which two issues are going to be most important for GOP Primaries voters?

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    Which two issues are going to be most important for GOP Primaries voters?

    Which two issues are going to be most important for GOP Primaries voters?

    Select only two from list below/attached poll:

    - Immigration/Border control

    - SWCcare

    - Civil liberties

    - Intervention in Syria/Iran

    - National debt/Economy/Trade

    - Gay marriage

    - Other (describe)




    Note:
    This poll is not about your personal view on these issues or what you think should be two most important issues for GOP primaries voters - but this poll is about two most important issues for GOP primaries voters based on your observations.



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    This is 21st Century America we are talking about here. It's all about panem et circenses. Therefore...

    Other:

    1) Timber/tone of voice

    2) Hairstyle

    3) Height

    4) Appearance of clothing

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    Media drives the frenzy...

    It'll depend which issues they're frightening Boobus with come election day...

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    Immigration/Border and Civil Liberties.

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    Immigration/Border and National Debt/Economy, not because I think those are the most important (I do think that the Debt and Economy is one of the 2, but I would have voted for Civil Liberties), but because that's what I'm hearing all the time from people in my heavily GOP locale.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    This is 21st Century America we are talking about here. It's all about panem et circenses. Therefore...

    Other:

    1) Timber/tone of voice

    2) Hairstyle

    3) Height

    4) Appearance of clothing
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Media drives the frenzy...

    It'll depend which issues they're frightening Boobus with come election day...
    Mix one part GunnyFreedom with one part tod evans, shake well, and serve ...
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    the economy and immigration for the GOP nomination. The economy and the economy for the national election. Immigration is becoming a huge issue not just here but in Europe also. In britain it just became the number one issue on voters minds and in countries like Germany, France, etc they are all getting fed up with their govts open door policies. Its time to close the borders and Rand better start addressing it

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    It's pretty obvious that Republicans don't care about the issues they pretend to care about, or they would have loved Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldwater's ghost View Post
    the economy and immigration for the GOP nomination. The economy and the economy for the national election. Immigration is becoming a huge issue not just here but in Europe also. In britain it just became the number one issue on voters minds and in countries like Germany, France, etc they are all getting fed up with their govts open door policies. Its time to close the borders and Rand better start addressing it
    He has been. Consistently. Since 2011. Republicans would know this if they could get past their dislike of his hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Y'all haven't been listening to the senior Dr. Paul. Or the Chinese stock market. Or the news from Greece.

    Either that, or you're betting the correction won't come until next spring.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    I think economy, followed by Iran/ISIS (support for Israel), immigration, and then abortion. Of course you have to be on the right side of all those issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    It's pretty obvious that Republicans don't care about the issues they pretend to care about, or they would have loved Ron Paul.
    Sadly, he didn't explain it in terms they understood.

    Plus, how many times were we running around trying to clean up after he made a confusing statement that people were taking the wrong way? I remember quite a few. And then there were things like a televised townhall where one man asked him what he would do as President. Dr. Paul said something like he couldn't do much because of the Congress. So, the guy, frustrated, said, ok, what if the Congress was totally supportive, what would you do then? Dr. Paul again said there wasn't much he could do. The guy shook his head and sat down in exasperation.

    It was sad, but it was also true.

    I think even today, someone who spoke like Ronald Reagan could get elected still today. But, he was a master of words and also knew how to touch emotion and do it consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    This is 21st Century America we are talking about here. It's all about panem et circenses. Therefore...

    Other:

    1) Timber/tone of voice

    2) Hairstyle

    3) Height

    4) Appearance of clothing
    It's obvious that issues don't really matter. Immigration? Santorum and Rand have been better than Trump on it for years, yet Trump gets the credit.

    This is about a celebrity and a billionaire, who gets massive attention in the media because of those two facts. Nothing about issues there. And the other thing he does is not take crap from the cultural Marxists and biased propagandists in the media. People love that, but it's not really an "issue".

    Sure immigration is important as far as issues go, but it's not the only factor by a long shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It's obvious that issues don't really matter. Immigration? Santorum and Rand have been better than Trump on it for years, yet Trump gets the credit.
    Trump stumbled into this by dumb luck.

    He said some offhand xenophobic thing while he was rambling, and the next thing you know the reaction was jumping. But the only reason that got a bigger reaction than usual is because people who are looking for a quick fix, and can't add, see somewhere between a quarter and a third of the workforce isn't working, and these math-challenged individuals seem to think that tossing some three or four percent of the population will make an impact on that.

    So, once again, I quote Slick Willie to a loser named Bush: 'It's the economy, stupid!'
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I quote Slick Willie to a loser named Bush: 'It's the economy, stupid!'

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    economy
    foreign policy

    From recent events, one might think immigration should top the list, but IMO this exceptional hype this early in the process is going to result in "immigration fatigue" by caucus time: that, coupled with the eventual realization on the part of many immigration-obsessed GOP voters that none of the candidates (including Dumpster) are going to enact the kind of policies they want.

    As for Rand, he can't win on foreign policy, he can only maintain - he can win on the economy. That's his path.

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    I want pot legal that is my main issue. I am tired of the police state built around marijuana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Trump stumbled into this by dumb luck.

    He said some offhand xenophobic thing while he was rambling, and the next thing you know the reaction was jumping. But the only reason that got a bigger reaction than usual is because people who are looking for a quick fix, and can't add, see somewhere between a quarter and a third of the workforce isn't working, and these math-challenged individuals seem to think that tossing some three or four percent of the population will make an impact on that.

    So, once again, I quote Slick Willie to a loser named Bush: 'It's the economy, stupid!'
    Trump broke through in 2015 for the same reason Ron Paul got his surge in 2007---he stood up for himself at a key moment, and kept on not backing down. Ron registered with Republicans when he didn't back down to Giuliani's bullying, Trump registered when he didn't reverse himself on immigration when under pressure. Then and now, the primary voters respect backbone, only they really want it now in a candidate, since they've seen over and over how "their" side buckles when intimidated.

    IOW, Trump didn't take the lead because he stumbled onto the right issue, he won people over when he stood by it. Most voters don't sweat the details of issues, but do understand standing firm. Ron should have demonstrated more of this tone in his run, along with taking on more of the "no-no" topics with the same resolute stance. The same goes for Rand---he can't win just based on brain power, he has to connect with voters as having heart and guts as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I want pot legal that is my main issue. I am tired of the police state built around marijuana.
    I agree. Although I will tell you, I tried it several weeks ago and I thought I was dying. I have severe PTSD and panic attacks. The pot threw me into a severe panic attack. The feeling was "I don't really know where I am".... and peeps with PTSD always need to feel they are in control.

    Pot is not for me, but I respect your right.

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    Which two issues are going to be most important for GOP Primaries voters?
    Boobus's concern will be directed to the serious question of boxers or briefs.



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    a stock market crash , and the subsequent bailout votes, could take center stage. same for a war in Korea.

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    Does national debt/economy include Tax Plan?

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    It is like 1992 all over again with the importance being the same as James Carville's attack plan for Clinton's 92 campaign.

    Change vs. more of the same
    The economy, stupid
    Don't forget health care.
    Add immigration after the economy and there you have Trump's success in the polls right now. The economy was also the reason for Perot's success at the time.
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    Hair and Bimbos

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    This is 21st Century America we are talking about here. It's all about panem et circenses. Therefore...

    Other:

    1) Timber/tone of voice

    2) Hairstyle

    3) Height

    4) Appearance of clothing
    +rep. Sad but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    This is 21st Century America we are talking about here. It's all about panem et circenses. Therefore...

    Other:

    1) Timber/tone of voice

    2) Hairstyle

    3) Height

    4) Appearance of clothing
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