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    Drudge Headline: 49% of British youths not totally Heterosexual

    I suppose they were all born that way?


    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sexual-orie...sexual-1515690

    These "in betweeners" are all people that have a choice between partaking in homosexual activities and heterosexual activities. But I guess it's hateful and bigoted to encourage them to form productive, fruitful heterosexual unions rather than waste their energies on a null result.

    How is it possible that over 72% of the older generation is completely heterosexual, but only 51% of the younger generation is? Is it something in the water? Or is it decades of indoctrination by an aggressive cultural movement teaching kids that they might not actually be the gender they think they are? It's well known that many tweens these days will readily identify as bisexual, even before they hit puberty.


    All of this takes a toll on British society:


    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/fertil...in-the-uk.html

    The UK's meager native birth rate of 1.9 is sadly one of the highest in Europe. Population numbers are bolstered by a deliberate policy of the government to import migrants of childbearing age.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-migrants.html
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    Just wait until this next generation that is being read "I am Jazz" at the age of 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    How is it possible that over 72% of the older generation is completely heterosexual, but only 49% of the younger generation is? Is it something in the water? Or is it decades of indoctrination by an aggressive cultural movement teaching kids that they might not actually be the gender they think they are?

    I think it's something in the water so to speak, or else old people are lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think it's something in the water so to speak, or else old people are lying.
    They're teaching them to be gay in school. +1 Putin



    I didn't learn anything about sex in school until middle school, and we learned the functions of sex, no stupid "progressive" agenda on bull$#@! "gender identities" or whatever. No demonstrations on how to put on condoms to encourage us, have butt sex, oral sex, etc. The way it should be, teach the function of sex, not recreational sex and alternative lifestyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    They're teaching them to be gay in school. +1 Putin



    I didn't learn anything about sex in school until middle school, and we learned the functions of sex, no stupid "progressive" agenda on bull$#@! "gender identities" or whatever. No demonstrations on how to put on condoms to encourage us, have butt sex, oral sex, etc. The way it should be, teach the function of sex, not recreational sex and alternative lifestyles.
    I don't think being taught that being gay is ok some how makes people attracted to the same sex. It may make them more open about it.

    Are you saying that if you were taught it was ok to be gay that you would be attracted to the same sex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't think being taught that being gay is ok some how makes people attracted to the same sex. It may make them more open about it.

    Are you saying that if you were taught it was ok to be gay that you would be attracted to the same sex?
    Being taught by whom? is the question.

    I like it when children are taught by their parents. If that is not possible, then at least the parents should have total and complete control over what they do and do not what their children to learn and who they do or do not trust to teach their children. Given the obvious fact that this parental control has gown downhill, who do you think is responsible for this openness? You may think children should be taught to be open, but alas, these are not your kids, so I would hesitate to call it a good thing when the state tries to go behind parents' backs to teach the kids something their parents may not approve of.
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    49% of British youths
    When did "yoots" mean 18-24?

    Another redefinition of terms...



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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    When did "yoots" mean 18-24?

    Another redefinition of terms...
    I don't suppose it really matters what the sample age is because the statistics are telling nevertheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    I don't suppose it really matters what the sample age is because the statistics are telling nevertheless.
    What do the statistics tell you Paul?

    They tell me that public indoctrination, er education, is working as planned in Britain..

    If one were to poll yoots on either coast, or cities in the USSA they'd probably get similar results....

    Rural areas not so much, might be the same in the UK?

    Leading to my point;

    The "problem" is a combination of government education and cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    I suppose they were all born that way?


    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sexual-orie...sexual-1515690

    These "in betweeners" are all people that have a choice between partaking in homosexual activities and heterosexual activities. But I guess it's hateful and bigoted to encourage them to form productive, fruitful heterosexual unions rather than waste their energies on a null result.

    How is it possible that over 72% of the older generation is completely heterosexual, but only 51% of the younger generation is? Is it something in the water? Or is it decades of indoctrination by an aggressive cultural movement teaching kids that they might not actually be the gender they think they are? It's well known that many tweens these days will readily identify as bisexual, even before they hit puberty.


    All of this takes a toll on British society:


    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/fertil...in-the-uk.html

    The UK's meager native birth rate of 1.9 is sadly one of the highest in Europe. Population numbers are bolstered by a deliberate policy of the government to import migrants of childbearing age.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-migrants.html


    You have it exactly backwards. Previous generations (yours?) were told being gay is NOT ok. People who were, or who fell somewhere on the continuum between gay and straight, were not to speak of it.
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    Mistakenly watching gay porn and getting a tingle in your pants doesn't mean you are not an inbetweener.

    Or maybe a lot more of them have spent time in the pen and taste the forbidden fruit to realize that they kinda like it. Now that makes you and inbetweener.

    Also I would like the data to separate the numbers for men and women. Personally I think most women are naturally inbetweeners

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    I'm a gay man, but I don't believe these numbers.

    How many of these people, especially the men,are actually attracted to the point where they are really having sex with someone of the same sex? Not that many.

    It is considered cool these days to be open minded and fluid when it comes to sexual attraction, but that is not the same thing as actually having sex with persons of the same sex. And a one time experiment with a circle jerk does not count as **** sex.

    It is kind of like the reaction to trannies. Everyone goes on and on about how beautiful they are, because that is the PC response, but you know darn well that 99% of the people saying that would never take one home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    What do the statistics tell you Paul?

    They tell me that public indoctrination, er education, is working as planned in Britain..

    If one were to poll yoots on either coast, or cities in the USSA they'd probably get similar results....

    Rural areas not so much, might be the same in the UK?

    Leading to my point;

    The "problem" is a combination of government education and cities.
    I would agree with that. Just saying, the numbers of "yoots" who are not heterosexual stand on their own, regardless of whether or not you include other ages with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Mistakenly watching gay porn and getting a tingle in your pants doesn't mean you are not an inbetweener.

    Or maybe a lot more of them have spent time in the pen and taste the forbidden fruit to realize that they kinda like it. Now that makes you and inbetweener.

    Also I would like the data to separate the numbers for men and women. Personally I think most women are naturally inbetweeners
    Dayum, I sure hope not. Maybe in the US, but that sure as hell hasn't been my experience in China.

    There's nothing natural about it.
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    WAY too much inbreeding results.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Dayum, I sure hope not. Maybe in the US, but that sure as hell hasn't been my experience in China.

    There's nothing natural about it.

    Why Women Are More Likely to Be Bisexual

    By Tia Ghose, Staff Writer | June 28, 2013 10:45am ET


    Women may be more "hetero-flexible," or be primarily attracted to men with some same sex attraction, because same-sex behavior allowed women to raise their children with other women, a new study has proposed.

    The hypothesis, published this April in the journal Evolutionary Psychology, suggests that more fluid female sexuality may have evolved because it benefited women's offspring. Some women who were raped or fathered children with absentee or deceased dads formed sexual relationships with other women, which may have made it easier to raise children together, according to the theory.

    "Being born with the ability to [be attracted to men and women] may have been beneficial to ancestral women," said study co-author Barry X. Kuhle, a psychologist at the University of Scranton in Pennsylvania. [5 Myths About Polyamory Debunked]

    Not everyone agrees with Kuhle's hypothesis, pointing to the lack of evidence to support it and suggesting perhaps women's more fluid sexual boundaries may just be a byproduct of some other evolutionary change. There may be no evolutionary reason for the hetero-flexibility, they say.

    More fluid

    Several studies have shown that women are much more likely than men to report attraction to and physical contact with same-sex partners. Women also show similar genital arousal when viewing images of both sexes in erotic situations.

    But exactly why has been a puzzle. Researchers have proposed that women's sexual fluidity enabled women to bond with sister wives in polygamous marriages. Still others have argued that it's a byproduct of the fact that women have weaker sex drives that are therefore easier to channel to different objects of attraction, Kuhle wrote in the paper.

    To better understand women's sexuality, Kuhle looked to other animals for clues. The Laysan albatross's ability to form same-sex bonds may help them alloparent, or raise young that are not their own. Other studies suggest bonobos, which share more than 98 percent of their DNA with humans, often help rear other apes' offspring and cement social bonds by having sex with other troop members — both male and female. (In general, bonobos have a lot of sex).
    http://www.livescience.com/37834-wom...parenting.html

    I was going to highlight parts of the article but Id suggest you read the whole thing. I truly believe this and more. I think women are the ultimate sex symbols and this applies even to other women. So many instances in our lives where women sexually touch other women is done without a second thought on the matter. We live in a society where a girl singing "I kissed a girl and liked it" would top the charts while a man singing "I kissed a guy and I liked it" would crash so bad that the artist that sang it would be lucky to still have a career after the release.

    I still like to see the numbers for just men cos I will be worried when the numbers for men start spiking.

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    I don't know why some people here are so surprised about the "youth" being more sexually "flexible"; didn't American prisons already prove that earlier?

    And although I do think people are being more open about it than they used to be, I doubt the numbers are as high as they claim; I think survey merely reflects the level of politically correctness within Europe, not that it's changing anyone's innate sexuality.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't think being taught that being gay is ok some how makes people attracted to the same sex. It may make them more open about it.

    Are you saying that if you were taught it was ok to be gay that you would be attracted to the same sex?
    Quote Originally Posted by jonhowe View Post
    You have it exactly backwards. Previous generations (yours?) were told being gay is NOT ok. People who were, or who fell somewhere on the continuum between gay and straight, were not to speak of it.
    That's right. You can't change people's innate sexuality through culture or by "teaching" them, you can only allow them to be more or less open about how they feel; previously, many people didn't want to be open about their homosexual urges because of the social taboo but now that there isn't so much of a taboo, more people are willing to openly admit it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyFan View Post
    I'm a gay man, but I don't believe these numbers.

    How many of these people, especially the men,are actually attracted to the point where they are really having sex with someone of the same sex? Not that many.

    It is considered cool these days to be open minded and fluid when it comes to sexual attraction, but that is not the same thing as actually having sex with persons of the same sex. And a one time experiment with a circle jerk does not count as **** sex.

    It is kind of like the reaction to trannies. Everyone goes on and on about how beautiful they are, because that is the PC response, but you know darn well that 99% of the people saying that would never take one home.
    You're right, it's unlikely that all these respondents are having homosexual sex on a regular basis (especially men), barring an "experimental" encounter for some but most of them are probably just trying to be politically correct & are basically trying to say "it's ok to be gay, bi, etc". They are making a political statement more than anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Dayum, I sure hope not. Maybe in the US, but that sure as hell hasn't been my experience in China.

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    This is what happens when you let the homosexual mafia take over your media and schools. They will call you all bigots until they have converted half the population to be abnormal. The UK is lost.

    What is their next step? Oh, we will see. People won't believe it till they see it.
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    If this were France, I might believe it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyFan View Post

    It is kind of like the reaction to trannies. Everyone goes on and on about how beautiful they are, because that is the PC response, but you know darn well that 99% of the people saying that would never take one home.
    Let me 'splain something.....

    If I reach between "her" legs and find dangly parts "she's" guaranteed to see the other end of those parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyFan View Post
    I'm a gay man, but I don't believe these numbers.

    How many of these people, especially the men,are actually attracted to the point where they are really having sex with someone of the same sex? Not that many.

    It is considered cool these days to be open minded and fluid when it comes to sexual attraction, but that is not the same thing as actually having sex with persons of the same sex. And a one time experiment with a circle jerk does not count as **** sex.

    It is kind of like the reaction to trannies. Everyone goes on and on about how beautiful they are, because that is the PC response, but you know darn well that 99% of the people saying that would never take one home.
    ya this, a teen girl kisses another girl and says, "Oh my god I'm so bi, lol."
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    We'd have to see the survey questions to understand these results.


    My guess is that that on this survey if you played "show me yours I'll show you mine" with another boy at 4 years old you'd be marked bisexual.
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    What is 100% heterosexual anyways? Is having a gay friend a "homosexual activity"? Is a threesome? If a girl in fun kisses a girlfriend, is that a "homosexual activity"?

    (definitions seem to have been left up to the person giving themselves a ranking).



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    We'd have to see the survey questions to understand these results.


    My guess is that that on this survey if you played "show me yours I'll show you mine" with another boy at 4 years old you'd be marked bisexual.
    But that wouldn't explain the generational differences. I agree with the poster who said this is the result of decades of indoctrination. To me it shows how vulnerable our minds are in our formative years. So glad I homeschool.

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    I believe that number, have you seen British women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignMN View Post
    But that wouldn't explain the generational differences. I agree with the poster who said this is the result of decades of indoctrination. To me it shows how vulnerable our minds are in our formative years. So glad I home school.
    If it was that easy to convert a large portion of heterosexual people into being attracted to same sex people, then the fat acceptance people would have convinced us all long time ago that fat is beautiful. These are natural instincts and its pretty darn hard to manipulate

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    At this point I'm inclined to agree with Gore Vidal, that sexuality cannot be well understood when applied to people, but rather to the acts themselves. I'm skeptical of the study, too, but perhaps not for the same reasons. I was struck by the last paragraph of the article, because the person being quoted reveals what I think is the flaw of the article itself:

    Charlotte Dingle, editor-in-chief of Biscuit, told Pink News: "Women are increasingly viewing their own sexuality as fluid. I believe that the old definitions of 'gay', 'straight' and 'bi' are increasingly irrelevant in a society in which an individual's sexual and gender identity is becoming more and more complex and diverse."
    First of all, I think there is confusion or a blurring of lines around different types of attraction. I think sexual attraction is distinct from romantic attraction, or other types that are not quite romantic, but not quite platonic either. A lot of people are what I'd call too hung up on defining gay or bisexual people by the actual sex these people are having, while today's discussions of '*****ness' allow for the possibilities of attraction without a sexual component. If I think a woman is beautiful (beyond normal acknowledgement of someone's attractiveness) and have a little crush on her without necessarily wanting to have sex with her, does that make me bi or lesbian? I don't think so, but I also wouldn't call myself 100% straight either. This is what would fall under the category of heteroflexibility, and I think something like this phenomenon could be responsible for the large percentages seen in the study. The interpretation of the study is possibly just mislabeling circumstances like those I just described as active same-sex sexual desire. I do agree that sexuality can be fluid for a significant portion of people, but I'd caution against the interpretation that it means sexuality can be changed. I'd describe sexual fluidity as akin to the movement of magnetic poles; whom one finds attractive shifts involuntarily over time.

    To make a long story short, I think the varying interpretations stem from problems of how people define sexuality and attraction; they could consider these things to be the same, and/or they could think they are bisexual without necessarily ever being able to go through with having sex with someone of the same sex. Hence why I think sometimes it's better to just simplify and remember Vidal's argument, that the acts in themselves should have the sexuality attached to them and not the people. There are a whole lot of other gray areas I could discuss as well, but I don't want to ramble too much. So, people fearing the collapse of civilization thanks to all the gays, fear not! If I had to name a suspect, it would be that mainstream people aren't yet familiar with the language often used to discuss nuances and the range of sexualities. Even the trusty Kinsey scale needs to be thrown out, or at least updated, at this point.
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    Does anyone on RPF honestly believe that someone couldn't be indoctrinated from birth that having relationships with the same gender is what they should be doing?
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Does anyone on RPF honestly believe that someone couldn't be indoctrinated from birth that having relationships with the same gender is what they should be doing?
    Well for a long time people were indoctrinated that having sexual relationships only with the opposite sex is what they should be doing, and look how that turned out - there have always been gay and bi people.

    No doubt those with attractions toward the same sex will be more likely to engage in those activities if it is accepted, but the indoctrination doesn't lead to the attraction toward the same sex.


    Also, you never answered my question..

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Are you saying that if you were taught it was ok to be gay that you would be attracted to the same sex?


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