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    This High School is Taking a Stand Against the Growing Police State

    Carey Wedler
    November 24, 2014
    (TheAntiMedia) NEW YORK, NY- A school in New York City introduced a new program last week that helps high school students deal with police. East Side Community High School invited representatives from the New York American Civil Liberties Union to conduct hour long workshops over two days.
    Candis Tolliver, the NYACLU’s associate director for advocacy, said she visits classrooms upon teacher requests, but this is the first time she has addressed an entire school.


    She was welcomed by the East Side Community’s principal, Mark Federman. Mr. Federman told the New York Post:

    “We’re not going to candy-coat things — we have a problem in our city that’s affecting young men of color and all of our students.”
    Like police across the country, the NYPD has been caught beating, killing, and abusing teenagers.

    In fact, Federman commenced the program because students had complained about police harassment. Jason Zaragoza, 18, told the Post that he was recently stopped by police:
    “We said we were going home…They said, ‘You’re lying to us — just tell us the truth.’ I was panicking, because I knew they could do anything to me and I can’t help myself.”

    Still, Federman maintains he is not against law enforcement:


    “It’s not about the police being bad…This isn’t anti-police as much as it’s pro-young people… It’s about what to do when kids are put in a position where they feel powerless and uncomfortable.”


    The program advises students to be polite but aware of their rights. It provides pamphlets called “What to Do if You’re Stopped by the Police.” The ACLU teaches that citizens are not required to show identification or consent to a search but not to resist the latter if it is forced. It also shared that it is wise to remain silent when dealing with police. The hour-long workshops emphasized the fourth amendment and how to deal with stop-and-frisk incidents.

    Of the program, Zaragoza said:

    “[It] helped show me I can have my own defense against policemen who abuse their power.”

    It is clear the problem of police brutality is at grotesque proportions when a public school–often a proponent of “law,” “order,” and “obedience”–is educating its students on how to stand up to these very things.

    Naturally, however, police advocates objected to the program, saying the ACLU is “dolling out criminal defense advice.”

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    Eugene O’Donnell, former cop and current professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice complained that

    “It’s unlikely that a high school student would come away with any other conclusion than the police are a fearful group to be avoided at all costs.
    Sounds like a good program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Sounds like a good program.
    Too much racist BS for me.......

    $#@! the ACLU and the horse they rode in on.

    I don't see a problem selling the out of control kops and citizens have rights aspects without the "people of color" BS that is part-n-parcel of the ACLU.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Too much racist BS for me.......

    $#@! the ACLU and the horse they rode in on.

    I don't see a problem selling the out of control kops and citizens have rights aspects without the "people of color" BS that is part-n-parcel of the ACLU.....
    Yeah, I agree. Still, at least someone is doing something to expose police misconduct and how to, at least, try and avoid it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Too much racist BS for me.......

    $#@! the ACLU and the horse they rode in on.

    I don't see a problem selling the out of control kops and citizens have rights aspects without the "people of color" BS that is part-n-parcel of the ACLU.....
    Well, it IS the ACLU. You know they are going to put a slant on anything. They should take race out of it but they can't help themselves.
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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    A friend of mine tried to avail himself of their legal acumen late 80's early 90's and was told point blank that they didn't want anything to do with white boys and dope.

    They'll get nothing from me but disdain..

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    As for the HS in the OP, good for them!

    Standing up to tyranny is never a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Well, it IS the ACLU. You know they are going to put a slant on anything. They should take race out of it but they can't help themselves.
    Well you can't take race out of it.. how else are you gonna divided the issue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    Well you can't take race out of it.. how else are you gonna divided the issue...
    I will not be lumped in with kops because of ethnicity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Too much racist BS for me.......

    $#@! the ACLU and the horse they rode in on.

    I don't see a problem selling the out of control kops and citizens have rights aspects without the "people of color" BS that is part-n-parcel of the ACLU.....
    The ACLU has major problems and they certainly focus on race, but this is still a good thing. The defense of young black men is worthwhile, even though it is an incomplete defense of humans. The end result here is a net positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    Well you can't take race out of it.. how else are you gonna divided the issue...
    I assume this is satire.
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    "Originally Posted by sam1952
    Well you can't take race out of it.. how else are you gonna divided the issue..."

    "I assume this is satire."


    yes... it is...
    Last edited by sam1952; 08-16-2015 at 10:34 AM.
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    “It’s not about the police being bad…This isn’t anti-police as much as it’s pro-young people… It’s about what to do when kids are put in a position where they feel powerless and uncomfortable.”
    Yes, the police are fine. The children need to instead learn to modify their behavior around police, so police aren't in a position where they have to beat them.

    Which is what I'm assuming this course was designed to do.
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