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Thread: Everyone VS Trump, Trump VS Rand Paul. Who will the voters choose?

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    Everyone VS Trump, Trump VS Rand Paul. Who will the voters choose?

    Trump is on TV talking about Rand Paul.
    Rand Paul is fantastic at manipulating the media and Trump is Rand's number one asset in doing so.
    Books will be written about this strategy. I love it



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    Does anyone have a video? I don't have access to a TV right now.

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    I may be wrong, but right now it's everyone against Rand ... What am I missing?

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    Yeh, the establishment hates Rand Paul and really wants him out of the race. I think that is strange...right now he is no threat at all...maybe he should imply he will run third party; that would get a rise out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I may be wrong, but right now it's everyone against Rand ... What am I missing?
    This is what we wanted, the more people against Rand the better, Rand's strategy is to beat the bipartisan machine. Sometimes calling a tomato- a tomato when the news is calling it a anti-tomato is the best strategy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by squirl22 View Post
    Yeh, the establishment hates Rand Paul and really wants him out of the race. I think that is strange...right now he is no threat at all...maybe he should imply he will run third party; that would get a rise out of them.
    Rand is a threat. He can beat Hillary in three states.

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    How many states can Trump beat Hillary in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    How many states can Trump beat Hillary in?
    Not a one !!! That is why FOX, CNN, MSNBC, et al using Trump to take Rand out. Wake up peeps !!!! You too Rand !!!!! Stop playing the game, and stay on point.



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    The attacks on Rand are also picking up because Bush dropped out of the top 5 this week in some IA polls, to the point where Jeb is about to drop below Rand. That will look really, really bad to the MSM in their attempts to prop up Bush, so they are trying to depress Rand's numbers to head off that result.
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    Every candidate in the race, from all parties, is in the race specifically to block Rand from winning. Each morning, these candidates will call in their campaign managers wanting an updated list and status report of the top 5 ways to take Rand out of the race. Then the managers all meet up on skype (everyone except for Doug Stafford, of course) and coordinate their plans for the day, which consist of destroying the Rand campaign. This also includes a followup session with media personalities, where they hand out "hit pieces" on Rand, watch them read from their webcams, and choose the one that hurts Rand the most. Then they look at all the polls from the previous day, destroy all the ones that have Rand in first place and release the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Rand is a threat. He can beat Hillary in three states.
    Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Pennsylvania & Ohio. Florida and Virginia close too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Not a one !!! That is why FOX, CNN, MSNBC, et al using Trump to take Rand out. Wake up peeps !!!! You too Rand !!!!! Stop playing the game, and stay on point.
    He is unelectable and won't release any policies until next month. LOL! He's so anti establishment though he called bush stupid.

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    Stupid fight. The reasons advanced by Rand are weak, non-convincing, and non-working. When did flip-flopping accusations ever stuck? Romney? Obama? Bush? Hillary?This fight will bury Rand's campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publicani View Post
    Stupid fight. The reasons advanced by Rand are weak, non-convincing, and non-working. When did flip-flopping accusations ever stuck? Romney? Obama? Bush? Hillary?This fight will bury Rand's campaign.
    How is arguing that Donald Trump is a socialist liberal when he is weak?

    What is weak are all Trump's attacks on Rand. Do any of them have any merit? I'll answer the question for you: it's NO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How is arguing that Donald Trump is a socialist liberal when he is weak?

    What is weak are all Trump's attacks on Rand. Do any of them have any merit? I'll answer the question for you: it's NO.
    The media has already let the cat out of the bag on Trumps motivation for running. You know how a group of girls always have that one fat friend that they always go out with to make themselves seem prettier by contrast? Donald Trump is that friend, the Obama camp won by calling Mitt Romney too right wing, and anti immigration with his self deportation policies. They lost the Asian and Latino vote in Trumps own words. Trumps strategy all along was to make the GOP nominee stronger by being more reasonable by contrast.

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    I'm beginning to wonder if the polls are real. I just happened to catch a live report from Iowa on FOX this morning, and the reporter said that out of all the people she spoke too, not a one had Trump as their first or second choice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Pennsylvania & Ohio. Florida and Virginia close too.
    A lot of delegates in those states...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I'm beginning to wonder if the polls are real. I just happened to catch a live report from Iowa on FOX this morning, and the reporter said that out of all the people she spoke too, not a one had Trump as their first or second choice.
    The numbers are cooked.

    But there's another dynamic at work here. At this stage of the game, nothing matters. No one is voting for the next leader of the free world and the guy who orders the nuclear strikes. Yet. So, they can afford to milk this for entertainment. When it gets closer to primary time, you'll see people sobering up and considering other things besides their own amusement. And since Iowa goes first, you'll see the residents of that state sober up first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I'm beginning to wonder if the polls are real. I just happened to catch a live report from Iowa on FOX this morning, and the reporter said that out of all the people she spoke too, not a one had Trump as their first or second choice.
    anecdotal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I'm beginning to wonder if the polls are real. I just happened to catch a live report from Iowa on FOX this morning, and the reporter said that out of all the people she spoke too, not a one had Trump as their first or second choice.
    polls are the best way to lie/manipulate the public perception. anyone can make any poll say what they want if they know how to do it. look up frank luntz. THIS is why im pissed that the media somehow has say over who gets into the debates based on "polls". rand can be gone after the next debate if they want him gone, all by phony polls.

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    My SWAG, whoever promises them the most "stuff".

    That works out well for the Dems.

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    What is weak are all Trump's attacks on Rand.
    Not only are they weak but childish and immature....which is also what I think of Trump himself, not just his attacks. He is so immature and self center...what the heck is wrong with the people who are so enthused about him...same thing I guess, childish and immature.

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    Or maybe FOX isn't real.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I'm beginning to wonder if the polls are real. I just happened to catch a live report from Iowa on FOX this morning, and the reporter said that out of all the people she spoke too, not a one had Trump as their first or second choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulGeorge&Ringo View Post
    Or maybe FOX isn't real.
    The whole thing feels like one massive PSYOP to me right now, as stupid as I think the average GOP voter, nay the average American voter tends to be, what is going on right now is literally beyond the pale. Then again, maybe I should take the term "idiot box" (TV) a bit more literally if I want to truly understand this mess.



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