for all you Trump haters
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...eye-surgeries/
"We live in an age where things change rather rapidly, whether politically or economically and certainly in foreign policy things change, so this whole ball game can change rather rapidly.” ― Ron Paul
uhm, this is news to you? it was discussed here on rpfs back when it happened.
me <--- trump troll gets neg rep (mean)
I'm not saying anything bad about Ron Paul, I LOVE ron Paul, but he's not running and nobody else is speaking the truth like he did except trump
"We live in an age where things change rather rapidly, whether politically or economically and certainly in foreign policy things change, so this whole ball game can change rather rapidly.” ― Ron Paul
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins...5mv#.ggVRo2bad
Breitbart Staffers Believe Trump Has Given Money To Site For Favorable Coverage
R∃VO˩UTION
lol, you Trump supporters are reaching some embarrassing levels of gullibility.
Perhaps he was trying to atone for the widow he had forcibly evicted for limousine parking space?
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell
Originally Posted by AuH20
Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump
It was wrong of Trump to do that, but just for accuracy, isn't she still there? I thought his attempt wasn't successful.
I wonder how many officials he bribed before giving up.
They confronted me in the day of my calamity, but the Lord was my support.
Wow, it's no wonder that Rand is only at 3% when people on this forum, people who claim to be part of the liberty movement, are supporting Trump.
This is constructive criticism: A lot of Rand supporters are making a mistake by trashing many people who have Trump among their favorite candidates. Someone could be willing to support Trump and Rand, or Trump or Cruz or Rand, but have Trump for their first choice. Calling these people all sorts of names is counterproductive even from the perspectives of their objectives. It was surprising to see that very dumb people like that could be a significant minority here.
Upon looking, his attempts weren't successful. She eventually did sell though.
In that case then, maybe he wanted to buy an indulgence for the murdering of tens of thousands of people once elected?
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell
Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump
That is a worthy cause. Trump spinned it as though it was give to Rand's campaign. Giving to Rand's charity for free eye surgery is a useful endeavor, and should be commended. Rand needs to clear that up one of these days, when he gets a chance.
I think he plans to bomb the oil, don't expect that to bother his conscience.
He has.
He said Trump donated it to the school. That Trump is philanthropic, and he was glad Trump donated to the cause.
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell
Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump
Rand and Trump's campaign occupy much of the same space. While Rand may eclipse Trump on policy, Trump trounces Rand in terms of sheer defiance. Rand has backed down to the media on a few issues, which is very disappointing but indicative of someone completely paralyzed by political correctness.
I don't think he is an evil man. He has shown himself to be good hearted sometimes. I just don't think he should be President of the United States.
#NashvilleStrong
“I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi
Trump is a war mongering socialist, the only truth he is speaking is about media manipulation and questionably about some issues regarding immigration. I also like some of his rants against the PC police. But these issues have very little to do with relevant government policy, with the exception of immigration.
Rand Paul is talking about softening our foreign policy and has a better grasp on economics - Trump may know more about business and how to wade through government regulations and find angles on suing people and finance - but Rand has a much better grasp on how economics affects the general population. Trump has made some statements about the Federal Reserve that I found encouraging, I'll give you that, but he isn't talking about privacy or civil liberties like Rand Paul.
Trump's attacks against Rand in the debate had no intellectual merit. If you want to know who did better at $#@! talking, it was Trump. If you want to know who won the arguments from a logical and intellectual perspective, it was Rand. I find this very telling about who supports who. I'm not as anti-Trump as a lot of people on this site, I like how he shakes things up. But for a Ron Paul supporter to think that Trump is better than Rand is absolutely $#@!ing insane.
Last edited by dannno; 08-11-2015 at 12:27 AM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Is the title not a bit misleading? Is this Rands' "University of Utah’s Moran Eye Center" or did Rand and Trump both donate to this charity; Rand with his time and services, and Trump with his money? I'm not familiar with the extent of Rands' position or relationship with the "University of Utah’s Moran Eye Center", but if Rand only has a charitable relationship with them then I think the title is misleading.
R∃VO˩UTION
It's good to know. Someone who supported Ron, but not Rand, was throwing it up in my face yesterday.
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
For what it's worth, I believe you are correct. I didn't realize that these forums had automatically converted from father to son and I don't appreciate the negative reps and being called a troll because I support Trump and don't happen to agree with Rand on everything. Personally, I think it's good to have differing views, but since it doesn't seem to be accepted here, I'll sign off with this final post.
"We live in an age where things change rather rapidly, whether politically or economically and certainly in foreign policy things change, so this whole ball game can change rather rapidly.” ― Ron Paul
"I am a bird"
Ron Paul and Rand Paul have nearly identical political philosophies which are almost totally opposed to Donald Trump's political philosophy. The reason you are receiving a negative reaction is because you don't have an intellectual or logical basis for your beliefs.
Last edited by dannno; 08-12-2015 at 01:27 PM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I'm so $#@!ing sick of Trump.
See ya'll in a few days.
I don't think so. When called upon to discuss it Trump talks some warpig stuff because Joe GOP likes warpig talk. But war isn't Trump's focus. He wants the catbird seat because he wants to take his wheeling and dealing international in a way that's not available to anyone un*less* they're sitting in the catbird seat.
As for being a socialist,...no. Trump is the capitalist from hell. If you want to fault him for something, you need to fault him for being totally $#@!ing obsessed with capitalism. Socialists want to pass money around to the free $#@! army. Trump's not giving anybody anything.
Trump is not a career politician. He's not spent his life working to cultivate some personal ideology that he can present to the people in order to get elected. His ideology is business and he wants to make America his latest business venture,...and,...being an obsessively competitive person, he doesn't want to fail at it. He definitely doesn't want "failed President" on his resume'.
Everybody is looking for Trump's motive like it's something that's difficult to figure.
Trump wants to try his hand at running the biggest $#@!ing business in the world.
The U.S.A.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...sing-Democrats
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Yeah. I know. Trump talked up the Clintons because doing so was good for business. He knew they were for sale and he bought them.
That's how capitalism has been in America since long before even our grandparents were born. Trump has pointed out that it's a corrupt system, but either you choose to play or you do shift work somewhere.
Every candidate in either party knows that. Hell, virtually everybody in the world knows it.
Trump just spells it out in plain language while the other candidates go mum.
If you take Donald Trump's political views prior to a certain point then you are correct. In more recent times Trump's popularity is due to similarities with Ron/Rand in policy that fall within the realm of Paleoconservatism. That is specifically immigration policy.
If you look at it from a Paleocon's perspective on this issue Trump gives the perception he is more true to those beliefs and unashamed of them when it comes immigration than that of Ron and Rand.
Last edited by kahless; 08-12-2015 at 01:42 PM.
* See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
Or maybe Donald Trump is for sale and he is helping the Clintons?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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