I know there are a ton of polls coming out right now, this one may be interesting to see the trends in NH leading up to last night's Candidate Forum:
Would not vote for:
Net electability:
https://cola.unh.edu/sites/cola.unh....prim080315.pdf
That's cool being able to see the second choice, would not vote for and net electability percentages.
Rand does well on the "would not vote for" chart with only 2% choosing him. And is third in net electability with +5%.
Interesting to see Trump and Bush at the bottom of that list with -5% each despite also leading the polling. Shows the affect that name recognition and media attention have. More people choose them in the poll, but they also have the largest amount of people who will never vote for them.
Will be interesting to see how many people voting for them in the poll are actual hardcore supporters, and how many are just picking them because of name or because they are currently leading. Seems like it would be easier to lose some of those supporters than to turn around people who vow to never vote for you. Which kind of puts a ceiling on their numbers.
But with the field being so large right now and everything spread out it allows them to lead. Overall a decent poll for Rand, and shows he has potential to grow. Curious to see what happens as the field shrinks.
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Wow, Rand leads the field with 19% among voters aged 18 to 34 with 19%, but only gets 1% with voters 65 and older.
Rand is setting himself up to be known as the future of the GOP.Originally Posted by Brett85
thats been my only "concern" and "problem" with Rand running now.
The problem?
Is he a hair too early for his "time"? Is he too late to make the changes we need to save this ship?
No doubt, as the old fogies die off, Rand just becomes stronger and stronger...but as the country goes, can we afford to wait for that to happen?
Betwixt I am!
Rand is only 52 so could always run again in 2020 or 2024
He has said in the past that multiple runs are not something he is looking to do. Though that could change, I suspect if he doesn't make it this time and gets reelected to the Senate, it will be his last term before retiring from public service.
I'm not sure if our country can survive that long though. We might become like Greece before then.
Great point, which also shows how easily these pollsters can manipulate polls in favor of the more establishment candidates. At the moment that appears to be their #1 tool in rigging these polls to get their desired result. For instance, the recent poll in Iowa, they only gave the 18 to 34 crowd a 5% rating as to making up the whole pie of voters. They know damn well this is far from accurate because in 2012 that demographic made up at least 25% of the voting block. But by forecasting that this demographic is only going to make up 5% of the voting block in 2016 while 95% is going to come from the 35 and up age group is not only outright lying, but if killing Rand Paul's polling numbers at the moment. This particular age group in Iowa in 2012, went overwhelmingly to Ron Paul winning nearly 50% of the vote total. At the current moment for reasons that are not to hard to figure out, the pollsters are simply way under polling this age group, but will eventually have to adjust their numbers to reflect the actual forecasted percentage of this age group. Once this demographic is adjusted correctly it will appear as if Rand is surging, when in reality he'd been polling those numbers the whole time. Right now there doing their damndest to dampen support and get people off the Rand Paul bandwagon. This is why they're still attacking Rand more than any other candidate despite looking as if his poll numbers are dropping. They know the Rand surge is going to come, but at the moment they're trying their best to cause the traditional republican vote to look the other way when that time comes. For Ron, once that age group was correctly adjusted he surged in Iowa, but they were able to use the the newsletters and a fake cnn poll showing Santorum surging from 3% to 24% in Iowa in the final 2 weeks to prevent Ron from winning. Obviously they can use a fake poll to propel anyone if they were able to launch Santorum to victory in a mere two weeks, but what against Rand will they use to knock his poll numbers down just enough to prevent him from winning? Knowing them hell they can use anything, as long as it's 24 hour non stop attacks from the MSM for 2 weeks leading up to the election, but it won't be so easy with Rand as it was Ron. They know Rand is a stronger candidate, and has inherited his father's support which gives him more of an edge over his father. So obviously they've chosen to go ahead and start attacking and attack hard before the pollsters have to change their methodology to reflect the most accurate voting blocks. Rand's team has to know this and HAS to be planning on how to capitalize on this once that time comes. I just hope his most hardcore supporters don't jump ship before that time comes, because believe me it's going to come. They know this, and they know if Rand can pull in even a minimal amount of traditional conservative support that could be enough to help him win in both Iowa and NH.
In the mean time Team Rand really needs to setup a real full fledged legit moneybomb that can raise him the amount of money as they did for his father. Perception is everything and why they're not planning something like this is beyond me. This is a big tool that they're using at the moment to describe Rand's campaign coming to a halt due to the in their words as "dismal" fundraising despite the fact that Rand has raised more than Ron did during the 2nd quarter during the same time period as Ron's. I'm baffled as to why some here with a lot of clout hasn't setup a legit moneybomb date to get Rand the kind of money to take away this argument the MSM is now using against Rand to describe his campaign as faltering. Come on guys, just hang in there, Rand's "surge" will eventually come, but the grassroots needs to be doing everything they can at the moment to ensure Rand stays relevant and exceeds projections. Come on Matt, and/or the guy that runs this site, lets setup a huge money bomb for Rand that everyone can get behind and lets get the man some money that he can compete with. The surge is coming!! Just like it did Ron, it won't be until the end, but lets at least ensure the guy has the money to fight off negative attacks while also capitalizing on the "perceived" momentum! We know this is going to happen according to the numbers so there's no reason why we can't do the best we can to make sure the campaign can keep the momentum going and prevent them from knocking Rand back down during that time frame. Come on guys!
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