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    Ron Paul on MSNBC's Hardball w/ Chris Matthews 8/3/15

    Last edited by jct74; 08-04-2015 at 11:53 AM.



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    Chris Matthews loves Ron and Rand. One point I hate wasn't brought out, is that Chris is talking about this new movement to bomb Iran. Look who is Pres. of the U.S. ..... the but hole buddy who Chris had tingles running up his leg about. Chris acts as though it is the GOP to blame, when Obama vetoes every bill that crosses his desk... except war ... Obama the war monger. Chris needs to admit that. The truth shall set you free Chris.

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    Did this run parallel to the NH forum?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Tilting head seems to be a family issue. Also shoulder shrugging.

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    Thanks for posting

    Ron Paul : We can't afford more war - that's what happened to Russia - it's not like they (the Soviets) just turned into peaceniks "

    and the Guiliani moment replayed -

    Love it ! Thanks again for posting.

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    @5:24
    "This agreement is far from perfect, and nothing like I would've done it."
    It would've been interesting if Matthews pressed him on that, and asked him what he would do differently.

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    I'm a bit perturbed by Ron's activities lately. Why is he promoting a book? IMO, all he should be doing now is being a full-throated endorser of Rand. His only public appearances should be to further Rand's campaign, with nothing to distract or take away from it. Instead, he's almost doing the opposite.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    I'm a bit perturbed by Ron's activities lately. Why is he promoting a book? IMO, all he should be doing now is being a full-throated endorser of Rand. His only public appearances should be to further Rand's campaign, with nothing to distract or take away from it. Instead, he's almost doing the opposite.
    Rand is now trying to separate himself from the GOP pack as the dove and also as the true economic conservative. Ron's book came right on time.

    The book also got Ron on tv so he could talk about Rand.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Rand is now trying to separate himself from the GOP pack as the dove and also as the true economic conservative. Ron's book came right on time.
    If that's his real strategy, it's a foolish mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The book also got Ron on tv so he could talk about Rand.
    Every books Ron sells is more money that doesn't go to Rand's campaign. The only thing he should be talking about is the campaign, and frankly, he's made some comments that have hurt Rand, for example over the Iran deal. He should be on the same side, pushing in the same direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    Every books Ron sells is more money that doesn't go to Rand's campaign. The only thing he should be talking about is the campaign, and frankly, he's made some comments that have hurt Rand, for example over the Iran deal. He should be on the same side, pushing in the same direction.
    Ron isn't the type to lie about his positions, but perhaps you're right. He should sew his mouth shut so that he doesn't speak his feelings on certain issues and make people realize that he and Rand aren't clones of each other who agree on everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Rand is now trying to separate himself from the GOP pack as the dove and also as the true economic conservative.
    . . .
    Yup, distance himself from the neocon pack as far as he can - an "almost-never" interventionist only going to war when Congress authorizes it constitutionally -
    why sould the Executive branch not want the second opinion of Congress - that is what makes sense.
    No foreign entanglements other than war resolutionmytiond / pirarcyUnited Nations approach against ISIL, with a USA lead. But no blind allegiance to Israel either.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    . . . Ron's book came right on time.
    The book also got Ron on tv so he could talk about Rand.
    It is fine to have the father - son books out together at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    If that's his real strategy, it's a foolish mistake.
    Wrong - get as far away from Huckabee's dangerous fascism as soon as possible. The mistake would be to pander to the Karl Rove/Jeb/Rubio neocons.
    Get Israel to sign the NPT is the peace highway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    Every books Ron sells is more money that doesn't go to Rand's campaign. . . .
    Is this sarcasm ?

    it makes no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    The only thing he should be talking about is the campaign, and frankly, he's made some comments that have hurt Rand, for example over the Iran deal. He should be on the same side, pushing in the same direction.
    Ron Paul is gonna pander to whom ?
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    If that's his real strategy, it's a foolish mistake.
    Separating yourself from the pack on an important issue is not necessarily a mistake, it can be quite advantageous. It's hard to get ahead if there are a lot of people in the race all singing the same chorus.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    Every books Ron sells is more money that doesn't go to Rand's campaign. The only thing he should be talking about is the campaign, and frankly, he's made some comments that have hurt Rand, for example over the Iran deal. He should be on the same side, pushing in the same direction.
    Ron is going to be himself, but I don't agree that money going toward his book is in any way taking from Rand's fundraising.. it is probably adding to it with the publicity.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    Every books Ron sells is more money that doesn't go to Rand's campaign.


    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    The only thing he should be talking about is the campaign [...]


    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    [...] and frankly, he's made some comments that have hurt Rand, for example over the Iran deal. He should be on the same side, pushing in the same direction.
    Ron is still on exactly the same "side" he has always been on, and he is still pushing in exactly the same "direction" he has always pushed - namely, the "side" and "direction" of peace, prosperity and liberty.

    He's not going to change that for the sake of political expediency. He didn't when he himself was running - so why in the world would he when someone else is running? (Answer: He isn't going to - nor should he. So get over it.)
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