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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    If it isn't your lion, then it really isn't really your place to pronounce it demented or euphoric.
    How do you figure?

    If someone buys up kittens and puppies to cut their heads off, and make chandeliers out of them, we can't pronounce it demented because it is their kittens and puppies?



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Who knew Cecil spoke such eloquent English and in such poetic format? He must have learned it from all the american tourists chatting while taking pictures of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I wonder what lion tastes like... maybe oyarde will stumble by and let us know.
    It is delicious.

    Try it if you get the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    Personally, I think people that kill animals of any type human or lion for fun, or simple convenience, or expedience are disgusting.

    I thought God gave man dominion over the earth. Apparently to some control and or ownership infers wanton destruction for maniacal pleasure. I don't agree, I have dominion over my property I don't seek to harm it for it pleasure.

    Killing for fun=PIECE of $#@!. It really is that simple. Demon possessed if you want to transpose spiritual terms for psychological. Psychopath behavior. Pleasure from the act of killing, as opposed to pleasure from gaining the necessary resources killing can provide (hunting for food for example). No one that does that is "saved" under any scenario, that is just demented. No two ways about it.
    You cannot judge him.......that is God's work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    It is delicious.

    Try it if you get the chance.
    it is delicious. I have eaten zebra gazelle many other beautiful animals and they were all good. I am glad we ate them so they did not go to waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    it is delicious. I have eaten zebra gazelle many other beautiful animals and they were all good. I am glad we ate them so they did not go to waste.
    I have not tried zebra or gazelle but would if offered.

    I find it a little bit odd that people have such a kneejerk reaction to the sort of food a particular culture eats. Like pigs are any more 'reasonable' to eat (for lack of a better word) than cats, kangaroos, or chicken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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    There really is no way to fight the news cycle? There is absolutely no significance to this story, yet while major battles rage between forces who want to take freedom and the few who are trying to stop them, and THIS is what qualifies as news....

    And it actually works, here in RPF it creates divide. It's a friggen lion. A hunter killed it. Whoopsi do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    This may sound a little mean but I don't give a $#@! about Cecil.
    Me neither. Give the media enough time with it and they will probably find out that Cecil was actually a gay lion who liked to have his balls licked by other male lions.

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    the sociopath went to a protected park, and lured him out. what if he killed animals in a zoo? or started shooting family pets? trophy hunting should end, not necessarily by law but by making the hunter ostracized. airlines have already banned the transport of the trophies. next their addresses and professions should be publicized. most are doctors, dentists, lawyers, executives and would lose their practices/jobs/businesses if it were known they were sociopaths. same should be done with regard to killer cops/DEA and other killers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    the sociopath went to a protected park, and lured him out. what if he killed animals in a zoo? or started shooting family pets? trophy hunting should end, not necessarily by law but by making the hunter ostracized. airlines have already banned the transport of the trophies. next their addresses and professions should be publicized. most are doctors, dentists, lawyers, executives and would lose their practices/jobs/businesses if it were known they were sociopaths. same should be done with regard to killer cops/DEA and other killers.
    Has it dawned on you that there might, just maybe, possibly, be a difference in killing wildlife or domestic animals and humans?

    Given what you've written it seems as though you're giving all equal weight in your efforts to demonize hunters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    I have not tried zebra or gazelle but would if offered.

    I find it a little bit odd that people have such a kneejerk reaction to the sort of food a particular culture eats. Like pigs are any more 'reasonable' to eat (for lack of a better word) than cats, kangaroos, or chicken.
    I really enjoy pigs and chickens

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Me neither. Give the media enough time with it and they will probably find out that Cecil was actually a gay lion who liked to have his balls licked by other male lions.
    This will make him a hero lion worthy of dem hall of fame status .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    This may sound a little mean but I don't give a $#@! about Cecil.
    Yep.

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    Smile

    More Lion Abuse?
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    Tom DiLorenzo (03 August 2015)

    So a Harley Davidson dude is riding along past the city zoo just as a lion reaches through his cage and grabs a young boy. A quick thinker, he jumps off his bike and into the cage, punches the lion in the nose, and grabs the youngster from the clutches of the beast. The stunned crowd cheers wildly.

    A journalist in the crowd quickly approaches the biker for an on-the-spot interview. “I’ve never seen such an act of bravery,” he says, and “I have to write about this for tomorrow’s paper. Tell me a little about yourself.”

    The biker dude says: “Well, I’m a libertarian TEA Party activist who voted for Ron Paul, and I read LewRockwell.com first thing every morning.” “Great!”, says the journalist. “Check out the front page tomorrow morning,” and he walks away.

    Upon retrieving the morning paper, the biker was a little confused by the headline:

    “SUSPECTED DOMESTIC TERRORIST ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS LUNCH.”
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    I have not tried zebra or gazelle but would if offered.

    I find it a little bit odd that people have such a kneejerk reaction to the sort of food a particular culture eats. Like pigs are any more 'reasonable' to eat (for lack of a better word) than cats, kangaroos, or chicken.
    I agree.....perhaps conditioning and propaganda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post


    OMG OMG THEY ARE SOOOO CUTE. that is a lot of meat right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    the sociopath went to a protected park, and lured him out. what if he killed animals in a zoo? or started shooting family pets? trophy hunting should end, not necessarily by law but by making the hunter ostracized. airlines have already banned the transport of the trophies. next their addresses and professions should be publicized. most are doctors, dentists, lawyers, executives and would lose their practices/jobs/businesses if it were known they were sociopaths. same should be done with regard to killer cops/DEA and other killers.
    What if they donated the meat to the locals? Can they not eat what they kill and still mount the animal on the wall? Is it ok to kill an animal that then gets eaten?
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    I wonder how hard would it be to do this with some pictures of aborted fetuses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Has it dawned on you that there might, just maybe, possibly, be a difference in killing wildlife or domestic animals and humans?

    Given what you've written it seems as though you're giving all equal weight in your efforts to demonize hunters.
    "Trophy hunting should end!" - That's why I have her on my ignore list. SHe isn't a libertarian, she's a Democrat. The freedom answer is that public ownership of lions and property should end. I guarantee you that if the guides actually worked for a private hunting preserve, that Cecil the official mascot would be licking his own balls today, or the dentist would be facing charges for theft and destruction of private property.

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    Why is this even newsworthy to begin with! This probably is a distraction from the TPP and Planned Parenthood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    "Trophy hunting should end!" - That's why I have her on my ignore list. SHe isn't a libertarian, she's a Democrat. The freedom answer is that public ownership of lions and property should end. I guarantee you that if the guides actually worked for a private hunting preserve, that Cecil the official mascot would be licking his own balls today, or the dentist would be facing charges for theft and destruction of private property.
    There is nothing wrong with advocating social ostracisation for things you do not like. That is part of freedom too.

    She said:

    not necessarily by law but by making the hunter ostracized.

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    If they have to reduce or maintain the herd for whatever reason it does not make any difference if they are simply killed the Lion or killed it for a trophy.

    These people could not give a damn about that Lion or were aware of this Lion before the media started pumping the story. This is all about starting and maintaining a dialogue to criminalize hunting and a complete ban on gun ownership. If you listen to Bernie Sanders and the support he is receiving from the left you would see what is going on. This is what we will be fighting in the coming years.

    The timing of all this now is for the added purpose of distracting from the Planned Parenthood scandal.
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    Zimbabwe Will Not Charge Dentist For Killing Cecil The Lion

    Walter Palmer, the Minnesota dentist who sparked outrage for killing Zimbabwe’s Cecil the Lion in July, will not be charged over the animal’s death, the country’s environment minister announced Monday, according to Reuters.

    Palmer legally obtained the proper documentation to visit and hunt in the southern African country, environment minister Oppah Muchinguri-Kashiri told reporters.
    “We approached the police and then the prosecutor general, and it turned out that Palmer came to Zimbabwe because all the papers were in order,” Muchinguri-Kashiri said.

    Palmer killed the prized 13-year-old lion in July at Hwange National Park. Palmer and his guides reportedly lured Cecil away from the park and shot him with an arrow that did not immediately kill the lion. The hunters reportedly later killed Cecil with a gun after tracking him for two days.

    Palmer reportedly paid his guides $55,000 to help him kill Cecil.

    At the time, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said it was looking into the issue and assisting Zimbabwe officials, a spokesperson for the agency said.

    After attracting online hate over the animal’s death, the dentist said he did not realize the lion he “took” was a “known, local favorite.”

    “[Palmer] is free to come [back], not for hunting, but as a tourist,” Muchinguri-Kashiri said, according to Bloomberg.
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    Hunting increases the numbers of big game animals, if done properly and is a net good toward evironmental stewardship.

    Meanwhile, "ecotourism", hot among the tree hugging, sandal wearing set, does this:

    Ecotourism doing native wildlife more harm than good

    http://www.sciencerecorder.com/news/...ife-harm-good/

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