Training Officers to Shoot First, and He Will Answer Questions Later

[RJB]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/us...dayspaper&_r=0

WASHINGTON — The shooting looked bad. But that is when the professor is at his best. A black motorist, pulled to the side of the road for a turn-signal violation, had stuffed his hand into his pocket. The white officer yelled for him to take it out. When the driver started to comply, the officer shot him dead.

The driver was unarmed.

Taking the stand at a public inquest, William J. Lewinski, the psychology professor, explained that the officer had no choice but to act.

“In simple terms,” the district attorney in Portland, Ore., asked, “if I see the gun, I’m dead?”

“In simple terms, that’s it,” Dr. Lewinski replied.

When police officers shoot people under questionable circumstances, Dr. Lewinski is often there to defend their actions. Among the most influential voices on the subject, he has testified in or consulted in nearly 200 cases over the last decade or so and has helped justify countless shootings around the country.
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[RJB]

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[Anti Federalist]

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Unless you have decided that "today is the day", nothing short of total, boot-licking, complete compliance will bring you through an encounter with a state sanctioned mobster unscathed.

And even that is no sure thing.

Avoid these criminal lunatics at all costs.

Your life, and the lives of your loved ones, depend on it.

It should not be that way, but we do not live a free country any more.

Your friends, family and neighbors will turn you in, and when Officer Friendly and his pals show and are beating you to death, the most they will do is stare vapidly, or maybe pull out their phones and video the assault.

Until cops realize that they will:

A - Be sued and held personally liable for injuries and death caused by them, and/or

B - While beating down an old lady and putting her in a coma, there is a very real possibility that 100 armed citizens will come out of their homes and hold him accountable.

Nothing will change.

Therefore avoid them: shun them, have no interaction with them on any level.

If you have friends/family members who are cops, inform them they are no longer welcome in your home.

Do not talk to them.

Do no business with them.

Ask no favors of them.

A sane man would not ask Tony Soprano for a favor, don't ask a mobster with a badge for one.

(And it hurts to say that all the time, there have been some great RPF members over the years who have been cops, but I'm sorry, you're killing and maiming us by the thousands now, and the facts are, you and your brothers in blue are a clear and present danger to life and limb and are to be avoided at all costs.)

[Origanalist]

“if I see the gun, I’m dead?”

No, then you pull the trigger. Obviously you already had the gun trained on him. Shoot him if he complies, shoot him if he doesn't. Either way it's justified.

[Anti Federalist]

No, then you pull the trigger. Obviously you already had the gun trained on him. Shoot him if he complies, shoot him if he doesn't. Either way it's justified.

Officer Safety was ensured.

Policy was followed.

Move the $#@! along now.

[Origanalist]

Officer Safety was ensured.

Policy was followed.

Move the $#@! along now.

This $#@! is out of control, and the "protected" bleat for more.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Pull over and get shot three times or keep driving and get 120 bullets

[Origanalist]

Pull over and get shot three times or keep driving and get 120 bullets

Either way...

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Either way...

then you will get charged for speeding, obstructing justice, disturbing the peace, reckless driving, contempt of officer, failure to comply, etc, etc

[Origanalist]

then you will get charged for speeding, obstructing justice, disturbing the peace, reckless driving, contempt of officer, failure to comply, etc, etc

That will be the justification for shooting you dead, you would be lucky to live to be charged.

[Christopher A. Brown]

This $#@! is out of control, and the "protected" bleat for more.

Does this mean you support a lawful and peaceful revolution?

Or is complain all you do?

[heavenlyboy34]

Does this mean you support a lawful and peaceful revolution?

Or is complain all you do?

lol

[Origanalist]

Does this mean you support a lawful and peaceful revolution?

Or is complain all you do?

I'm sorry, did I forget to put out the sign? Silly me.

[Christopher A. Brown]

I'm sorry, did I forget to put out the sign? Silly me.

Promoting tyranny and apathy is a sick thing to do while you are whining.

Why don't you agree with these fundaments of being an American?

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

Why won't you explain what a great sacrifice it is to agree?

[tod evans]

Try substituting the word citizen for officer in the OP....

[Occam's Banana]

“if I see the gun, I’m dead?”

No, then you pull the trigger. Obviously you already had the gun trained on him. Shoot him if he complies, shoot him if he doesn't. Either way it's justified.

Well, I would say ...

Oh, wait. This $#@! was talking from the cop's point of view - not from the perspective of the person who's about to get "served and protected" ...

Nevermind.

[tod evans]

1 in 12 adults in America has a felony conviction, about 20 million people, every one of them must weigh their ability to survive an encounter with a kop much more seriously than those not already burdened...

These odds increase every day as more people are convicted of more crimes, most of which are victimless.

[Anti Federalist]

Promoting tyranny and apathy is a sick thing to do while you are whining.

Why are you going around harassing people?

[Anti Federalist]

1 in 12 adults in America has a felony conviction, about 20 million people, every one of them must weigh their ability to survive an encounter with a kop much more seriously than those not already burdened...

These odds increase every day as more people are convicted of more crimes, most of which are victimless.

Whoa, brilliant, excellent point!

+rep

Outta bullets, somebody take care of Tod for me, thanks.

[Origanalist]

Whoa, brilliant, excellent point!

+rep

Outta bullets, somebody take care of Tod for me, thanks.

covered

[Christopher A. Brown]

Why are you going around harassing people?

If they post about a problem, they logically must show interest in solving it or they are insincere. Just testing, or trying to solve the specific problems.