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    Trump lowers expectations "I’m not a debater"

    Hmmmm... What should we make of this? Will he back out?

    July 30, 2015, 01:38 pm
    Trump lowers expectations for debate
    By Mark Hensch

    GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Thursday he has “no idea” how he will perform in next week’s Republican 2016 debate.

    Trump argued that he is a man of action rather than words during a news conference in Turnberry, Scotland, that afternoon.

    “As far as preparing for the debates, I am who I am,” he told ABC News.

    “I’ve never debated before, I’m not a debater,” Trump said. “I get things done. I don’t talk about it, I get it done.”

    “Politicians talk about it,” he added. “They debate all over the place and nothing happens. I’m sort of the opposite.”

    Trump then refused to guess on how he will fare during next week’s televised contest with nine other White House hopefuls.

    “I have no idea how I’ll do,” he said of the Aug. 6 debate on Fox News. “Maybe I’ll do terribly, maybe I’ll do great.”

    Trump’s remarks lower expectations over his presentation during next week’s forum under the Fox News banner. The first GOP debate of the 2016 race marks a major opportunity for attention amid one of the most crowded presidential fields in recent memory.

    The number of Republican Oval Office bids grew to 17 on Wednesday, when former Virginia Gov. James Gilmore filed paperwork for his campaign next year....
    (blah blah blah)

    ....Trump, meanwhile, is expected to skip another GOP forum scheduled for next week. Reports emerged on Wednesday suggesting the real estate kingpin plans on missing the Voters First Presidential Forum in New Hampshire on Aug. 3. Trump declined participation in the event as he believes it “unlikely” The New Hampshire Union Leader is endorsing his candidacy.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ons-for-debate
    Last edited by Valli6; 07-30-2015 at 02:29 PM.



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    You mean snorting coke and yelling at your yes-men subordinates doesn't breed critical thinking skills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You mean snorting coke and yelling at your yes-men subordinates doesn't breed critical thinking skills?
    No stuttering, rookie, female reporters to pwn this time around. Do you blame him for lowering expectations? I would do the same if I was Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You mean snorting coke and yelling at your yes-men subordinates doesn't breed critical thinking skills?
    An extremely talented billionaire like Trump obviously has very good thinking skills. I don't think you could make yourself look more ridiculous even if you tried. What have you accomplished? Making some full-of-holes economic arguments on an internet forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    No stuttering, rookie, female reporters to pwn this time around.
    I don't think I would describe those reporters that way, because they had Rand Paul all contrite, apologizing to them. And Rand is a smart guy, so I'd say those reporters are pretty good.

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    I suspect the problem he will have is finishing the answer to the questions put to him in the allotted time. When you cannot finish your thoughts and the first part of the conversation is not qualified with the second part, the media is going to have a field day with it.

    We will then have a week of the media demanding Trump apologies with much time given to Trump for which he will fully provide the answers to these questions and in the process totally humiliate the media again.
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    Hire some killer debate surrogate stand-ins, Donald. Delegation is a needed and desirable leadership skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    I don't think I would describe those reporters that way, because they had Rand Paul all contrite, apologizing to them. And Rand is a smart guy, so I'd say those reporters are pretty good.
    Yea, because we all know they both talked to the same reporter. Same persons, same network, same everything.

    And for what Rand did, he was right in apologizing. WTF is with you guys and never apologizing? I don't get it, you say something wrong, you are supposed to man up, apologize and move on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Yea, because we all know they both talked to the same reporter. Same persons, same network, same everything.

    And for what Rand did, he was right in apologizing. WTF is with you guys and never apologizing? I don't get it, you say something wrong, you are supposed to man up, apologize and move on.
    Rand did not say or do anything wrong. Therefore there was no need for him to apologize which made him look weak. People saw that and were thinking he does not have what it takes and then Trump comes in to fill that void which was ripe for the taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    An extremely talented billionaire like Trump obviously has very good thinking skills. I don't think you could make yourself look more ridiculous even if you tried. What have you accomplished?
    Give me a 9-digit inheritance, unlimited access to Fedbucks, eminent domain, and loose bankruptcy laws, and I'll show you.

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    He will have some great lines prepared - where's he at now ?
    relaxing on the Italian Riviera or something, while others under fire at St. Anslem on Monday.

    Trump I expect will do very well at the debate - he handles the crowds and mob the best of the GOP field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    He will have some great lines prepared - where's he at now ?
    "You're an idiot."

    "I'm rich, really rich, really, trust me."

    "Mexicans suck."

    "We need a Canadian-style single-payer healthcare syste....eh, oops, nevermind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "You're an idiot."

    "I'm rich, really rich, really, trust me."

    "Mexicans suck."

    "We need a Canadian-style single-payer healthcare syste....eh, oops, nevermind."
    Well, use the Tim Russert moderated answer about gays, pro-choice on youtube -
    for his probable debate style, which might be more accurate.

    It is not campaign fire like your misquotes, but maybe you be right -
    instead I expect his relaxed watching of St. Anslem forum will give him
    a huge advantage to see his competition in action on stage.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 07-30-2015 at 03:24 PM.

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    "Trump lowers expectations..." Snort.
    "The Patriarch"

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    How far can bluster take you? I expect we'll find out soon enough.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    "Trump lowers expectations..." Snort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    "Trump lowers expectations..." Snort.
    I second this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "You're an idiot."

    "I'm rich, really rich, really, trust me."

    "Mexicans suck."

    "We need a Canadian-style single-payer healthcare syste....eh, oops, nevermind."
    "I'm fully pro-choice! Oh $#@!, I meant pro-life! Or was it choice? Ooops."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    An extremely talented billionaire like Trump obviously has very good thinking skills. I don't think you could make yourself look more ridiculous even if you tried. What have you accomplished? Making some full-of-holes economic arguments on an internet forum?
    I'm sure he hasn't filed for bankruptcy 4 times!
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    No, he's a tyrant... a shouter. He is so accustomed to money buying his way through the world, he doesn't have the sense to debate. Normally he hands people a few bucks, and they do what he says. This will be interesting.

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    His big issue is immigration and it sounds like he's not much different than the other Republicans. Other than "building a wall and making Mexico pay for it", he said he wants to send illegals back and expedite the good ones through the legal process. How is rounding up 11 million just to bring them back in supposed to help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    His big issue is immigration and it sounds like he's not much different than the other Republicans. Other than "building a wall and making Mexico pay for it", he said he wants to send illegals back and expedite the good ones through the legal process. How is rounding up 11 million just to bring them back in supposed to help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    His big issue is immigration and it sounds like he's not much different than the other Republicans. Other than "building a wall and making Mexico pay for it", he said he wants to send illegals back and expedite the good ones through the legal process. How is rounding up 11 million just to bring them back in supposed to help?
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    How is it a step in the right direction though? The only difference I see between what Trump proposes and a "worker visa" is the unnecessary taxpayer cost of sending 11 million back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    How is it a step in the right direction though? The only difference I see between what Trump proposes and a "worker visa" is the unnecessary taxpayer cost of sending 11 million back.
    A loud message must be sent to the Chamber of Commerce that they are not permitted to intentionally drive down wages and then dump their illegal workers onto the social welfare net once they're done with them. Someone has to draw a line. I have no problem with the illegal worker (or H1-B carrier) competing against an American worker and having the illegal prevail. But it's blatantly obvious that the entire comparative model has been skewed since companies are so adept at passing their costs to the taxpayer. We're not getting an accurate representation of true labor costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    How is it a step in the right direction though? The only difference I see between what Trump proposes and a "worker visa" is the unnecessary taxpayer cost of sending 11 million back.
    Trump is a billionaire, he could pay for it with his own money. That or he would send them back home and make them pay for it.

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    Trump's strength, according to many, is that he's an outsider and a businessman. I think that's his weakness. Get him on the spot with details concerning government and how it works, and he'll look foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    I don't think I would describe those reporters that way, because they had Rand Paul all contrite, apologizing to them. And Rand is a smart guy, so I'd say those reporters are pretty good.
    Or maybe our guy is not so great in taking them down ?
    Last edited by timosman; 07-30-2015 at 07:26 PM. Reason: Clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    How is rounding up 11 million just to bring them back in supposed to help?
    If you round up 11 million and get less than that, it's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    Trump's strength, according to many, is that he's an outsider and a businessman. I think that's his weakness. Get him on the spot with details concerning government and how it works, and he'll look foolish.
    It depends on how he dances around the question. If he is skillful, he can go on attack mode and look good.

    What you have to remember is the average voter thinks at a 7th grade level. If Trump doesn't make the mistake of speaking at a higher level, like 9th grade, I think that won't be a problem.

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