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    Rand Paul on Trump's Surge: 'Brief'

    Presidential candidate and US Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) doesn’t think his GOP rival Donald Trump’s rise in the polls is permanent.

    In a CNN interview Thursday, Paul dismissed the real-estate magnate’s rise as a brief “loss of sanity.”

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    I guess he wants to plunge lower. Why insult 25% of the entire voter total? If I see Rand go after Trump, it's going to be comical. Don't do it. Position yourself behind Trump so you can harvest his voters or the voters that he shakes from the Big 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I guess he wants to plunge lower. Why insult 25% of the entire voter total? If I see Rand go after Trump, it's going to be comical. Don't do it. Position yourself behind Trump so you can harvest his voters.
    I have been saying the same thing in this forum. It is obvious to us why is it not obvious to Rand and his handlers. Mind blowing.
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    People running today, Rand included, are unfortunate that this once in a thousand years Tsunami is happening exactly when they run.

    Rand calculated that compromising wouldn't be so bad because he would still be among the most anti-establishment. Maybe he can throw his mic at the moderator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I have been saying the same thing in this forum. It is obvious to us why is it not obvious to Rand and his handlers. Mind blowing.
    Trump will give Rand a wedgie and push him down the stairs. Trump will hit Rand on a host of embarrassing stuff if he engages. Who the hell is advising him? Or maybe they want to go out in a blaze of glory since they are out of options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I have been saying the same thing in this forum. It is obvious to us why is it not obvious to Rand and his handlers. Mind blowing.
    It seems that he would also be giving up the VP to Ted Cruz, in the case that the establishment doesn't stop Trump.

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    The actual interview:



    This was a trap interview by Wolf. Starting at about the 5:00 minute mark, he hammered and prodded Rand to get an unpopular quote from him. It finally worked with the "temporary loss of sanity" quote. Wolf jumped on that and declared victory at that point. He was so pleased with himself.

    For full Trump/Poll context, start at 8:26. Rand was talking about Trump having 24x7 media coverage, and said "every network going gaga" and then added the "temporary loss of sanity". Wolf tripped him up after that by immediately saying that he called voters insane. Rand should have responded "I am talking about the media insanity!".
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    The media is going to play this up like no tomorrow. Billed Paul vs. Trump. Kill two birds with one stone. You just know Trump is going to breath fire on twitter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    The media is going to play this up like no tomorrow. Billed Paul vs. Trump.
    I'm not sure they will do that. It might go unnoticed.

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    A brief loss of sanity.............................Tell that to the NH Focus Group:

    http://www.mofopolitics.com/2015/07/...-donald-trump/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The actual interview:

    At 5:35, Wolf hammers Rand in the eyes of hardline immigration voters. For context, start at 5:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    I'm not sure they will do that. It might go unnoticed.
    Who do you thinks benefits when two of the most threatening 'outsiders' go at it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    A brief loss of sanity.............................Tell that to the NH Focus Group:

    http://www.mofopolitics.com/2015/07/...-donald-trump/
    Rand might not be ignoring that, but believing the establishment will succeed in stopping Trump.

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    dumb.....................dumb..................... ......dumb.................I don't even like FR but agree with them. Trump is going to stick Rand in a locker and then roll the locker off a cliff.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3318690/posts

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    Can’t wait for The Donald to lower the boom on Randy
    Well even so Rand, you are being beat. Guess you need to up your game.

    Oh and alienating the voters you may need later? Not a good idea.
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    ^ Obious the OP and others have no objectivity on the subject anymore. He didn't attack anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    ^ Obious the OP and others have no objectivity on the subject anymore. He didn't attack anyone.
    He attributed Trump's rise to mental instability on the part of the voters. Yes, the voters he needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    ^ Obious the OP and others have no objectivity on the subject anymore. He didn't attack anyone.
    The OP? It's copy/paste and link to the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    At 5:35, Wolf hammers Rand in the eyes of hardline immigration voters. For context, start at 5:00.
    Yep, this was a trap interview by Wolf. Starting at about the 5:00 minute mark, he hammered and prodded Rand to get an unpopular quote from him. It finally worked with the "temporary loss of sanity" quote. Wolf jumped on that and declared victory at that point. He was so pleased with himself.

    For full context, start at 8:26. Rand was talking about Trump having 24x7 media coverage, and said "every network going gaga" and then added the "temporary loss of sanity". Wolf tripped him up after that by immediately saying that he called voters insane. Rand should have responded "I am talking about the media insanity!".
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    I want the old Rand back. Please....

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    Guess we will see what happens. Don't think Rand would have went on the attack if he wasn't prepared to face the furor of Trump. Rand isn't going to go from walking around carefully in regards to Trump to all of a sudden going on the attack for no reason or without being prepared. I personally think it would have been better if Rand started going after others. He doesn't have to go after Trump to gain attention, going after anyone, whether it be Christie, Bush, or Walker would have gotten him attention and took some of the spotlight off Trump. The media loves in-fighting and drama, so he would have received a ton of attention from that, but maybe for whatever reason he feels Trump needs to be taken care of right now. Again, guess we will see how it plays out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    He attributed Trump's rise to mental instability on the part of the voters. Yes, the voters he needs.
    uhhh no he didnt.. he clarified just fine..

    why are you and jj still on this forum if all you want to do is try and $#@! on rand's campaign? you guys don't even offer constructive cirticism and it wouldnt mean much to me anyway since you guys are so infatuated with trump who has zero principles and zero conservative credentials.
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    Paul dismissed the real-estate magnate’s rise as a brief “loss of sanity.”
    Quite right, Rand, quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    why are you and jj still on this forum if all you want to do is try and $#@! on rand's campaign? .
    Copy/paste, link to an article. Clearly relevant. If you want me out, ban me, you're the moderator.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    uhhh no he didnt.. he clarified just fine..

    why are you and jj still on this forum if all you want to do is try and $#@! on rand's campaign? you guys don't even offer constructive cirticism and it wouldnt mean much to me anyway since you guys are so infatuated with trump who has zero principles and zero conservative credentials.
    (1) We are ahead of the curve in terms of public sentiment.
    (2) We don't want Bush, Walker or Rubio to win

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    If you want me out, ban me, you're the moderator.
    I second the motion.

    An example needs to be made of one of the Trumpsters, pour encourager les autres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    Copy/paste, link to an article. Clearly relevant. If you want me out, ban me, you're the moderator.
    no interest in that, I just don't understand why you guys still come here if this is the case.. and why trump?? the guy has absolutely no principles or platform to speak of.. this forum is all original ron paul supporters who came here to support principle over party and politics.. to support substantive policy discussion and implementation.. trump has no interest in any of that.. all he does is talk because all he is is an entertainer.. he is so far from being fit to run for president its insane.. the guy doesnt give two $#@!s about you or this country.
    The ultimate minority is the individual. Protect the individual from Democracy and you will protect all groups of individuals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    no interest in that, I just don't understand why you guys still come here if this is the case.. and why trump?? the guy has absolutely no principles or platform to speak of.. this forum is all original ron paul supporters who came here to support principle over party and politics.. to support substantive policy discussion and implementation.. trump has no interest in any of that.. all he does is talk because all he is is an entertainer.. he is so far from being fit to run for president its insane.. the guy doesnt give two $#@!s about you or this country.
    Principles? Are we really going there? I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that train LEFT months ago. You can't find principles in this republican primary. You work your way down accordingly.
    Last edited by AuH20; 07-30-2015 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    no interest in that, I just don't understand why you guys still come here if this is the case.. and why trump?? the guy has absolutely no principles or platform to speak of.. this forum is all original ron paul supporters who came here to support principle over party and politics.. to support substantive policy discussion and implementation.. trump has no interest in any of that.. all he does is talk because all he is is an entertainer.. he is so far from being fit to run for president its insane.. the guy doesnt give two $#@!s about you or this country.
    I explained many times. Read my old posts if you're interested. If you still can't understand, either I don't have the ability to explain or for some other reason you won't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I guess he wants to plunge lower. Why insult 25% of the entire voter total? If I see Rand go after Trump, it's going to be comical. Don't do it. Position yourself behind Trump so you can harvest his voters or the voters that he shakes from the Big 3.
    Trump supporters are at the bottom of the intelligence bin. Doubt they will find their ways to the polls without getting lost.

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