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    Why does the RNC like losing elections on purpose?

    They support the worst candidates you can find against the Democrats, so why do they do it?



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    The national party and some of the state level parties are out of touch with the electorate. Some of that was addressed in 2012 with liberty folks getting elected to leadership positions and taking over a couple state parties. A lot of them left their position (or got forced out) and now are working with Rand's campaign. What usually happens when there is a takeover, the old guard will make moves to dry up the treasury, then accuse the new folks of not being able to handle the money.

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    My SWAG is, losing elections removes the heat, burden and responsibility of having to try to lead and govern.

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    Nobody is really losing. The upper echelon of RNC stays in place. I think the one party system was explained long time ago during Ron's runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    They support the worst candidates you can find against the Democrats, so why do they do it?
    The elites don't care who the slave masters are, they just want the machine to keep rolling. If anyone dare run against them, they are automatically disqualified for being "too kooky".

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    The Republican establishment has more in common with the Democrats than their own party base. They would rather lose to the Democrats to ensure a candidate wins the Presidency that more closely reflects their beliefs than nominate a real Conservative.

    So one could say they win ideologically every 4 years regardless which party wins the Presidency.
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    Why does the RNC like losing elections on purpose?



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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    The Republican establishment has more in common with the Democrats than their own party base.
    Very true. For instance, just compare Jeb and Hillary, or Trump and Sanders.

    Peas in a pod.



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    The other issue is they seem content on letting 3 or 4 states decide the general election. It would get interesting if more states started sending Electors by CDs like NH and NE. Also, take the party affiliations off the ballots.

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    They support the worst candidates you can find against the Democrats, so why do they do it?
    The same people and corporations own both parties. Whoever the Puppetmasters want to win will win.
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    I'm convinced it's for the same reason some fighters take a dive in a prize fight they could win. Because they get paid richly for it.

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    No direct election.

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    i think its because they are too afraid of trying to get new voters vs. losing their base.

    what they havent realized is, their base is dying on and the way out...by 2052, minorities will be the majority of voters in the US. right now, 10% of GOP voters are minorities.

    They dont want to piss off the 90% in order to grow the 10%...but they are doing so in a short-sighted manner.

    What they have failed to realize is the turning point of the minority vote being the election decider was 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    My SWAG is, losing elections removes the heat, burden and responsibility of having to try to lead and govern.
    Pretty close to my view. Losing the Presidency takes the heat off of Congress, which is largely controlled by Republicans.

    Sadly, a divided government is the least destructive one we're offered, so things could be worse...

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    It's not optimal for the elites to lose the grip on their two party charade, but growing the GOP with libertarians is even worse for them. So, for the time being, the puppet masters are content with recurring Democratic administrations. What happens next is anybody's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    It's not optimal for the elites to lose the grip on their two party charade, but growing the GOP with libertarians is even worse for them. So, for the time being, the puppet masters are content with recurring Democratic administrations. What happens next is anybody's guess.
    The Republican party splits, and splits its vote for the next however many decades, allowing the socialist warmonger party free reign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2 View Post
    i think its because they are too afraid of trying to get new voters vs. losing their base.

    what they havent realized is, their base is dying on and the way out...by 2052, minorities will be the majority of voters in the US. right now, 10% of GOP voters are minorities.

    They dont want to piss off the 90% in order to grow the 10%...but they are doing so in a short-sighted manner.

    What they have failed to realize is the turning point of the minority vote being the election decider was 2012.
    they know it, and they are content with having the house, and sometimes the senate. if they really wanted the presidency they would have pushed electoral reform, and selected the electoral college by congressional district in WI, OH, MI, FL, PA, and VA.

    they want cheap labor, subsidized by the government, for their friends on Wall Street. the next president will propose national servitude, with the promise of free college, and it could pass. of course there will be no college slots for white males.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    It's not optimal for the elites to lose the grip on their two party charade, but growing the GOP with libertarians is even worse for them. So, for the time being, the puppet masters are content with recurring Democratic administrations. What happens next is anybody's guess.
    Exactly.

    There is no two-party system- welcome to The Matrix.
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    The RNC likes losing for the same reason Fox likes telling rank and file Republicans how to lose and encouraging them to do it. The RNC likes losing for the same reason that so many posters seem to enjoy coming here and encouraging us to encourage the Rand Paul campaign to shoot themselves in the foot--by firing the whole campaign staff, by flip flopping, by pissing off two thirds of the electorate. They're all paid to do so.

    Do you dislike being paid?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    this is a one party system, to think otherwise is just showing the fact that there are millions of idiots out there voting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    It's not optimal for the elites to lose the grip on their two party charade, but growing the GOP with libertarians is even worse for them. So, for the time being, the puppet masters are content with recurring Democratic administrations. What happens next is anybody's guess.
    Ender: Exactly.

    There is no two-party system- welcome to The Matrix.
    DFF just Neg-repped me for this remark.
    There is no spoon.



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