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Thread: Third Planned Parenthood Video Shows Aborted Baby Parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonhowe View Post
    As usual in abortion threads, the two sides are arguing different things.

    Pro choicers are making the OBVIOUS argument if one assumes life does not begin at the moment of conception, and instead at some point later.
    Pro lifers are making the OBVIOUS argument if one assumes life DOES begin at the moment of conception, and not at some point later.

    NO ONE is arguing about 'taking rights' away from anyone. Pro lifers think a woman's rights end where the fetus begins, just as my right to swing my fist ends at your face. They are arguing planned parenthood is not pro self determination because the fetus has no say in its termination.


    The argument is when life begins and always has been.
    How about brain activity. Without that, doctors pull the plug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    How about brain activity. Without that, doctors pull the plug.
    Yeah and the real problem is when is a body invested with a soul? At that point it is actually a life. Since science can't even explain what a soul is (or even if they believe in one) how can they ever really determine when a life begins.

    So, since science cannot know at this time in history when before 20 weeks a person has a soul (if they will ever know), we as libertarians should always side with life. So until it can be definitively proven when a fetus gets a soul, we should assume at conception just to be safe and avoid being wrong and murdering living humans.
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    Interview on CNN. ~10 more videos to be released. Proof of live birth abortions, and selling of non-dismembered murdered infants.

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    There goes my happy Friday vibes.

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    I can't watch any of these videos, the thought just makes me sick.

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    Why Planned Parenthood Can’t Donate Tissue Harvested From Babies

    July 29, 2015 By Katie Geary


    If you haven’t watched the damning videos of Planned Parenthood officials discussing fetal tissue donation (or, in plain language, exchanging aborted babies’ body parts for money), you should watch them now before you read further.

    The first alarming question is whether Planned Parenthood illegally sells aborted fetuses’ organs and tissue. This is what Planned Parenthood and its defenders have repeatedly focused on, insisting that they are compliant with all laws.

    But it is what precedes that “fetal tissue donation” that needs attention. Specifically, does Planned Parenthood regularly flout the federal ban on partial-birth abortion using loopholes? How do they get away with this? Do their patients—the women who apparently choose to donate the “fetal tissue”—know what’s going on in explicit terms?

    Federal law prohibits partial-birth abortion, a gruesome procedure in which an unborn baby is intentionally turned to the breech position to ensure that delivery of the body happens before delivery of the head. Once the baby’s head is stuck in the birth canal, the abortionist punctures the skull, evacuates the contents, and the baby is dead.

    There’s a good reason this practice is banned—it’s barbaric. Many Americans may not know that the term “partial-birth abortion” is not a medical one but a legal one. And, according to Planned Parenthood doctor Deborah Nucatola, some abortion providers don’t consider it with any seriousness. In her own words, “It’s not a medical term, it doesn’t exist in reality.” What?

    Why It’s Good to Give Babies a Heart Attack

    It’s clear Nucatola thinks the law is irrelevant—or, as she says, up for “interpretation.” She explains how abortion providers get around the law by injecting a fatal quantity of digoxin, a cardiotoxic drug, into the baby’s heart before dismembering or delivering it. In Nucatola’s words, using the slang for digoxin, they “dig.” (Here’s the full footage of Nucatola and the transcript.)

    Abortion providers get around the law by injecting a fatal quantity of digoxin into the baby’s heart before dismembering or delivering it.

    She explains: “Providers who use digoxin use it for one of two reasons. There’s a group of people who just use it so they have no risk of violating the Federal Abortion Ban. Because if you induce a demise before the procedure, nobody’s going to say you did a ‘live’—whatever the federal government calls it. Partial-birth abortion.” The second reason providers use it is “because they actually think it makes the tissue softer and it makes it safer and easier to do the procedure.” She counts herself in the second group.

    So, if you “dig,” you’re guaranteed a dead baby and a successful abortion without having to worry about the law. Moreover, you’ll find that a baby that has already died from a heart attack is apparently “softer” and easier to pull apart with metal instruments.

    I wonder how candid Nucatola is with her patients about this process.

    You Can’t Be Humane If You’re Extracting Baby Parts

    Maybe digoxin seems humane to some—at least when compared to the primitive method of tearing a live baby apart in the womb. But unfortunately, that’s not the case when the abortions lead to Planned Parenthood’s “fetal tissue donation.”

    These babies are being strategically maneuvered, crushed, and dismembered under ultrasound guidance—while still alive.

    In the second video, we find out explicitly from Planned Parenthood’s Dr. Mary Gatter that abortions performed with feticides aren’t viable for fetal-tissue donation. If digoxin is used, it renders the fetal stem cells unusable. (See the footage and the transcript.) Knowing this, Nucatola’s graphic explanation of how to “crush” unborn babies to maximize organ retrieval requires a clarifier. These babies are being strategically maneuvered, crushed, and dismembered under ultrasound guidance—while still alive.

    This poses an ethical question. Do the women consenting to fetal-tissue donation understand what’s happening during the procedure? Do they know that their babies are alive at the start of the butchering? A 2001 study showed that 91 percent of women in the study “preferred their fetuses were dead before the abortions.” How “informed” is their informed consent?

    It also poses a legal question. Is Planned Parenthood breaking the law—whether in its procedures for “donating” fetal tissue or by altering abortion methods—in order to get better specimens? If so, stripping it of federal funding would be a half-measure.

    If Planned Parenthood is not breaking the law, then we need to change the law. None of us, neither pro-life nor pro-choice, should support the types of practices Planned Parenthood abortion doctors casually discuss over lunch. You dig?


    Katie Mumma Geary is a Princeton University graduate and the Canterbury Fellow at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. She lives in Rochester, New York with her husband and their two children. The views expressed here are her own.

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    Sadly, PP is reflective of the citizenry. PP could not exist if this wasn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend1104 View Post
    Yeah and the real problem is when is a body invested with a soul? At that point it is actually a life. Since science can't even explain what a soul is (or even if they believe in one) how can they ever really determine when a life begins.

    So, since science cannot know at this time in history when before 20 weeks a person has a soul (if they will ever know), we as libertarians should always side with life. So until it can be definitively proven when a fetus gets a soul, we should assume at conception just to be safe and avoid being wrong and murdering living humans.
    And when does the soul leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend1104 View Post
    Yeah and the real problem is when is a body invested with a soul? At that point it is actually a life. Since science can't even explain what a soul is (or even if they believe in one) how can they ever really determine when a life begins.

    So, since science cannot know at this time in history when before 20 weeks a person has a soul (if they will ever know), we as libertarians should always side with life. So until it can be definitively proven when a fetus gets a soul, we should assume at conception just to be safe and avoid being wrong and murdering living humans.
    And when does the soul leave?
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    Points in video:

    1. Biotech technicians come to PP clinic. Zero "shipping and handling" costs.

    2. Executive Vice President caught in lie: accounting and management sets prices. Videos show doctors setting prices.

    3. 8-10 more videos.

    4. StemExpress has had intact infants in their research facilities. Do the math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    How can you salvage a society that openly kills their children for convenience and profit? I don't think you can. The mere fact that we have to actually go through great lengths to convince the trendies that this is not civilized behavior, reinforces the depths of this intractable problem. This is the prime reason why the Constitution never had a chance nor the Articles of Confederation. Man is a wicked animal & will not be restrained by mere parchment.
    Some would argue that the parchment is what makes it possible. I weep for humanity either way. I am pro choice in general, but this is Nazi Germany eugenics happening on a much larger scale. I do not consent.

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    Up next, infanticide:
    http://m.naturalnews.com/news/041398...ris-Perry.html

    (NaturalNews) Today Natural News denounces Melissa Harris-Perry, the latest talking head "death worshipper" to publicly imply that she supports the murder of living, breathing newborn children. According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins. And together with some twisted new "ethics" arguments from the radical left, this can include months or years after a child is born.

    That's why I need to premise this article with a disclaimer: This article is not about abortion. It's about the murder of children after they are born. Because once a child is born alive, terminating that life is no longer a "choice" � it's murder by every legal and moral standard. Because while abortion friends and foes can argue about when life begins in the womb, no one disagrees that a child born alive is, well, ALIVE� do they?

    Indeed, they do. MSNBC talking head Melissa Harris-Perry insists that life only begins when the parents have a "feeling" that it begins. "When does life begin? I submit the answer depends an awful lot on the feeling of the parents. A powerful feeling -- but not science," Harris-Perry said to nationwide astonishment on her July 21 MSNBC show
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    More hell with this bloody Planned Parenthood.

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    Up next, infanticide:
    http://m.naturalnews.com/news/041398...ris-Perry.html

    (NaturalNews) Today Natural News denounces Melissa Harris-Perry, the latest talking head "death worshipper" to publicly imply that she supports the murder of living, breathing newborn children. According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins. And together with some twisted new "ethics" arguments from the radical left, this can include months or years after a child is born.

    That's why I need to premise this article with a disclaimer: This article is not about abortion. It's about the murder of children after they are born. Because once a child is born alive, terminating that life is no longer a "choice" � it's murder by every legal and moral standard. Because while abortion friends and foes can argue about when life begins in the womb, no one disagrees that a child born alive is, well, ALIVE� do they?

    Indeed, they do. MSNBC talking head Melissa Harris-Perry insists that life only begins when the parents have a "feeling" that it begins. "When does life begin? I submit the answer depends an awful lot on the feeling of the parents. A powerful feeling -- but not science," Harris-Perry said to nationwide astonishment on her July 21 MSNBC show
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    Now this creature is certainly alive. The other ones not so much.


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