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    [Video] Rand Paul on Face the Nation w/ John Dickerson 7/26/15

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTzI6Tx6p6U


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    We'll also be joined by Republican presidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky. At a Senate Foreign Relations committee hearing Thursday on the Iran nuclear deal, Paul pushed Secretary of State John Kerry on whether the agreement will actually prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. Sunday, we'll ask him about his reservations and what he thinks the U.S. should do about Iran's future.

    Plus, Sen. Rand Paul took a chainsaw to the current tax code in a campaign video, pledging to demolish the tax code if elected. What does propose instead of the current?
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/coming-u...ions-security/
    Last edited by jct74; 07-26-2015 at 10:56 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    Rand was strong on Clinton's emails and trust. He was strong on Benghazi.

    Rand was weak on Trump by impying that Trump is against diversity. Trump has said no such thing. In fact, Trump is for diversity. I got the feeling that Rand was pushing the old and failed 'big tent' branding for the GOP. He needs to focus on principle and policy while ignoring political correctness and the race-baiting term of 'diversity.'

    Rand over simplified the trade issue by appearing to blame it all on the tax code. He ignores the bad trade deals misnamed as 'free' trade.

    Rand's flat tax rate is too high. 14.5%?! Why so high? Where is the talk of reducing the size and cost of government as Ron did very successfully?

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    Fantastic, much better than the FOX interview, A+

    Rand killed it on his tax plan (emphasized that he eliminates the payroll tax which is by far the biggest selling point, and which is generally being ignored by the media [who just mention that it's a flat tax]), and even more so on Planned Parenthood. That's obviously his wheelhouse, being a doctor, you can see the passion in his face. If I see a similar performance in the debates, I'm going to be very happy.

    This host was also much more fair than Wallace.

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    This was a fantastic job on Rand's end. He was on point and got all of his policies and points across well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by David Sadler View Post
    Rand's flat tax rate is too high. 14.5%?! Why so high? Where is the talk of reducing the size and cost of government as Ron did very successfully?
    It's that high because it eliminates the payroll tax. That's what makes it look so high. If he had kept the payroll tax in place then his flat tax rate would've been 6.85%, which is far lower than any other Republican as ever proposed. Ron produced a budget that only made the Bush tax cuts permanent and didn't actually cut any taxes at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    It's that high because it eliminates the payroll tax. That's what makes it look so high. If he had kept the payroll tax in place then his flat tax rate would've been 6.85%, which is far lower than any other Republican as ever proposed. Ron produced a budget that only made the Bush tax cuts permanent and didn't actually cut any taxes at all.
    That's not quite right. Total FICA taxes are roughly 15% up to 120k, which is ultimately born by the employee. Rand replaces the payroll tax with a consumption tax. So if your total cost to an employer was 100k, the government would get 15k. Rand eliminates your 15k contribution but if you make 100k and spend all of your income you will pay $14,500 in consumption taxes. One major advantage of doing it this way is that people who don't pay taxes like a drug dealer or illegal immigrant would be forced to pay taxes when they purchase items.

    The flat tax is 14.5% but the first 50k is exempt. That's why the rate looks high. It also keeps the mortgage interest deduction and charitable deductions. That is a tax cut for everyone. Even if you made 1 million and spent a million you would still pay less than you do now. You would pay just under 29%.
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 07-26-2015 at 10:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    That's not quite right. Total FICA taxes are roughly 15% up to 120k, which is ultimately born by the employee. Rand replaces the payroll tax with a consumption tax. So if your total cost to an employer was 100k, the government would get 15k. Rand eliminates your 15k contribution but if you make 100k and spend all of your income you will pay $14,500 in consumption taxes. One major advantage of doing it this way is that people who don't pay taxes like a drug dealer or illegal immigrant would be forced to pay taxes when they purchase items.

    The flat tax is 14.5% but the first 50k is exempt. That's why the rate looks high. It also keeps the mortgage interest deduction and charitable deductions. That is a tax cut for everyone. Even if you made 1 million and spent a million you would still pay less than you do now. You would pay just under 29%.
    Good explanation, but it's still too high, government is too big - too costly and much of it could be eliminated.

    Deductions and write offs are an issue. In this example, the mortgage interest deduction should be eliminated. It subsidizes lenders and inflates the cost of loans. People should buy smarter and simply manage their amortization schedule better by prepaying some principle with each regularly scheduled payment as can be afforded. This saves tremendous amounts of interest and shortens the loan payback.

    Charitable deductions should also be eliminated. Qualification and classification of charities, non-profits and so on adds to the bureaucratic morass and politicization of the tax code building complexity upon legalistic complexity. We see the problem very clearly with Planned Parenthood and the IRS targeting of the Tea Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Sadler View Post
    Charitable deductions should also be eliminated. Qualification and classification of charities, non-profits and so on adds to the bureaucratic morass and politicization of the tax code building complexity upon legalistic complexity. We see the problem very clearly with Planned Parenthood and the IRS targeting of the Tea Party.
    And that's an excuse for encouraging governmental substitutes for charity by starving the real charities that actually want to help people? And an excuse for penalizing churches that want to help people by mixing church and state?
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Fantastic, much better than the FOX interview, A+

    Rand killed it on his tax plan . . .payroll tax . . . and even more so on Planned Parenthood. That's obviously his wheelhouse, being a doctor, you can see the passion in his face. If I see a similar performance in the debates, I'm going to be very happy.

    This host was also much more fair than Wallace.
    Wow ! Yes.
    Beyond the passion in his voice, Rand looks rested and energetic, a little tanned/athletic - maybe he's been enjoying some trout fishing or something (?)

    The host is John Dickerson, CBS News’ political director and political correspondent for Slate,
    who in April replaced correspondent Bob Schieffer as host of “Face the Nation,”
    A+++.

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    This John Dickerson guy is a hundred times better than Bob Schieffer was! And he didn't even mention the talking point about his falling poll numbers that everyone else is using. In fact, Rand was expecting it so much that his answer talked about poling anyway, lol.

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    Bump, our dude needs it.


    At the end of the interview John Dickerson jumps in while Paul is still talking, 7:15 in the clip.

    RP: I think everybody in America is horrified by this.
    7:15: Inaudible (?)....... (over Paul)
    RP: They don't want their tax dollars going to this group.
    7:18 All right senator Paul, thanks so much for being with us
    RP: Thanks John

    Very disrespectful. Perry was next, right after this.
    Last edited by timosman; 07-28-2015 at 10:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Bump, our dude needs it.


    At the end of the interview John Dickerson jumps in while Paul is still talking, 7:15 in the clip.

    RP: I think everybody in America is horrified by this.
    7:15: Inaudible (?)....... (over Paul)
    RP: They don't want their tax dollars going to this group.
    7:18 All right senator Paul, thanks so much for being with us
    RP: Thanks John

    Very disrespectful. Perry was next, right after this.
    Well, key about that - it is at end, gotta go sorta exchange. We're cool with it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Well, key about that - it is at end, gotta go sorta exchange. We're cool with it.
    He was visibly uncomfortable when Paul started describing the procedure of removing babies from the womb. Maybe that's the reason. In that case - mission accomplished.

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    Rand did good.



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